Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution

vorlon31

i am soooo bored of sshats in al their guises. Bring on the Jumpgate PVE server and oh.. can we have a road test in Jumpgate Classic?

ELPIRATA

hummmm no.

netburnr

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Originally Posted by dailatron

I know most here dont have much faith in game moderation due to the Themis era but MG had a set of "Rules of conduct", break those rules and you got banned either temp or perm. Human game moderation is the only thing that can stem asshattery in online games.

Good luck having a small GM team able to keep up with 2500 people. Then of coarse when you get the GMs banning people, you get the uproar from the rest of the people, and a downhill slide from there. It happened in the past, it will happen again.

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Originally Posted by Injustice

With all due respect to the staff over at ND, there's no way in hell I would choose GM moderation over self-policing in an expansive MMO environment, had I the choice.

Exactly. We don't need babysitters, we just need the ability and tools to police ourselves, with proper downsides to being an "asshat", a proper bounty system, reasons for people to collect the bounty other than "ohh I got some money", and most of all, removing the ability of an asshat from being able to hide from his actions.

Istanbul

Do you think that making those evil greifer people we are referring to stay logged in and in flight 24/7 would be needed to keep them from hiding?

I think that'd be a neat way to keep people form being pricks. You do the prick thing and you can't dock or log out! And if you pull the plug on your internet then the game keeps you logged in and announces on KTRI your location for all to come kill you repeatedly.

(Okay, I guess maybe that might be too extreme).

dailatron

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Originally Posted by netburnrol

We don't need babysitters,

No seriously, we do need babysitters.

netburnr

No we don't dail, its a game, not a sleepover.

With proper game mechanics the players become the police and the ol' way of keeping people in line is resurrected.

As for keeping people in flight, I don't know about that, but keeping people with a bounty from docking at faction stations would be a start. But then how do they work off the bounty?

vorlon31

Players dont police. Players judge, and take sides... o hang on, so do the police... so let the mechanics police. AI isnt developed enough yet to take offence, or choose sides. But by fixed rules it can police.

Liet

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Originally Posted by netburnrol

keeping people with a bounty from docking at faction stations would be a start. But then how do they work off the bounty?

What if I take a home bounty on an oct member of a sol/quant squad? Mechanics can't tell the difference. How about a GM? Am I supposed to fill out an AAR? Spend 20 minutes dealing with him in whispers? What if he really likes me?

Mechanics are limiting, GMs aren't a solution. Hard as we try, we can't go home again to just post-release. Sad.

SingleShot

And here I thought camping out a station to kill some lamer currently watching TV was fun.

Liet

Nothing more fun than waiting outside DireCoyote's POS for him to launch. Yep. That's my idea of a great online game right there.

netburnr

Yeah that was always one of the biggest problems with "asshats", myself being one of them.

After a civ-rip, you dock at the closest station, log off for one hour, then come back and do it again.

No way I can think of to stop that

project3wc

i really dont understand what the big deal with these asshats is, its an online game and whether players police themselves or game mechanics do all the dirty work people will always find a way to be an ass (hat) to others.

and ND has already said there will be both a PVP and PVE server to please both sides.

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	vorlon31 Member Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 832	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution i am soooo bored of sshats in al their guises. Bring on the Jumpgate PVE server and oh.. can we have a road test in Jumpgate Classic?


	ELPIRATA Moderator Pilot Name: ELPIRATA Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek X45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 1,431	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution hummmm no.


	Istanbul Member Pilot Name: Istanbul Joystick: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WI Posts: 786	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution Do you think that making those evil greifer people we are referring to stay logged in and in flight 24/7 would be needed to keep them from hiding? I think that'd be a neat way to keep people form being pricks. You do the prick thing and you can't dock or log out! And if you pull the plug on your internet then the game keeps you logged in and announces on KTRI your location for all to come kill you repeatedly. (Okay, I guess maybe that might be too extreme).
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	netburnr I love everyone Pilot Name: netburnrol Faction: Pirate Joystick: X52 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 2,182	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution No we don't dail, its a game, not a sleepover. With proper game mechanics the players become the police and the ol' way of keeping people in line is resurrected. As for keeping people in flight, I don't know about that, but keeping people with a bounty from docking at faction stations would be a start. But then how do they work off the bounty?


	SingleShot Member Pilot Name: SingleShot Joystick: Spare FF2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 471	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution And here I thought camping out a station to kill some lamer currently watching TV was fun.
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	Liet Member Pilot Name: Liet Joystick: Force Feedback2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 253	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution Nothing more fun than waiting outside DireCoyote's POS for him to launch. Yep. That's my idea of a great online game right there.


	project3wc Member Pilot Name: Celphir,Project Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek X52 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 282	Re: Asshattery in Jumpgate Evolution i really dont understand what the big deal with these asshats is, its an online game and whether players police themselves or game mechanics do all the dirty work people will always find a way to be an ass (hat) to others. and ND has already said there will be both a PVP and PVE server to please both sides.