Friendly Fire in Jumpgate Evolution?

QrazyKermi

Anyone know whether friendly fire will handled the same as it is in Jumpgate Classic? Will the "friendly" portion of that be determined by faction, squad, or some other factor like political allegiance?

Will you be able to create a Sol pilot that joins an Oct squad, then shoot other Sols with no more penalties than his Oct squad mates?

Badger

As someone who hasn't played yet, can I ask how friendly fire is handled in Jumpgate Classic? I'm not sure I understand why it would be treated any differently, seeing as how Jumpgate seems to aim for realism.

netburnr

Well im not up to all this recent tag crap with squad wars (MT Tag), but before with Civ/HG, if you were HG you shoot anyone no penalty. If your civ and you shoot you get a temp bounty. If your HG and you shoot a civ, you get a temp. If your HG and kill HG, nothing, if your HG and kill a civ, perm bounty.

Liet

I am pro Friendly Fire.

vorlon31

Gaining temp bounties accidentally shooting squadies in Jumpgate Classic can be tiresome (although funny) but in a galaxy populated with x many players its a distraction I could do without. Saying that though, I doubt that its handling will differ from how it is in C.

vorlon31

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Originally Posted by netburnrol

Well im not up to all this recent tag crap with squad wars (MT Tag), but before with Civ/HG, if you were HG you shoot anyone no penalty. If your civ and you shoot you get a temp bounty. If your HG and you shoot a civ, you get a temp. If your HG and kill HG, nothing, if your HG and kill a civ, perm bounty.

MT (mil'tagged) can kill other @war factional MT for credits.
MT can kill other factions not @ war gaining a demerit only.
MT can kill civilians gaining a demerit only.
Too many demerits and you get kicked from mil - demerits effect missions payouts.
MT can kill other faction civilians who flip the MT's beacons for a temp only.
MT can kill temp bountied pilots for credits.
MT can kill pirates (heavily bountied) for credits.

Civilians can kill temp bountied pilots.
Civilians can kill pirates.

Pirates can kill pirates.
Pirates can kill temp bounties.
Pirates can kill civs or MT but their bounty goes up and up - an they pay it yarrrrr.

Everyone can kill everyone in unreg.

Flux can kill bountied, temps, civs, MT and rats.
Bountied, temps, civs, MT and rats can kill flux.

ND killed Tows.

SingleShot

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Originally Posted by Badger

As someone who hasn't played yet, can I ask how friendly fire is handled in Jumpgate Classic? I'm not sure I understand why it would be treated any differently, seeing as how Jumpgate seems to aim for realism.

This isn't about friendly fire in the way one would normally imagine the term.

vorlon31

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Originally Posted by SingleShot

This isn't about friendly fire in the way one would normally imagine the term.

Thats too easy and for the sake of international relations I will shut up *having first made sure there are no Americans behind me*

edit: or on the horizon, behind the horizon, in front of or besides.

Wild_Bill

Vorlon, watch out for our Vice President, he shoots, hits but only wounds lawyers... Our military are generally more lethal.

I don't see "lighting up" someone's shields as deserving a bounty, temp or otherwise. Downing a pilot might depending on various factors.

Badger

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Originally Posted by Wild_Bill

I don't see "lighting up" someone's shields as deserving a bounty, temp or otherwise. Downing a pilot might depending on various factors.

I disagree. At early levels, yeah the pilots should be given a little leeway since they don't know which end of the gun goes boom. But later on, I think it's very reasonable to expect peace-tagged people not to discharge their weapons in peaceful areas. Otherwise, you could have the situation where 100 pilots all light up a guy's shields once, he dies, and only one of them is responsible.

vorlon31

Add mortar use to the mix and you can splash multiple targets at once, from 6k away. I like mortars.

Powo

Well Jumpgate isn't gonna be exactly like those games where you have to choose one faction and then fight or work for it.
The decision was always in the hands of the player.

sentinels

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Originally Posted by Liet

TRI Pilots On Duty
On Duty:	20
In Flight:	14
Solrain:	3
Octavius:	9
Quantar:	8
TRI:	0

Category	Pilot	Score
Kills	Algore	2,827
Kill Ratio*	_KROM_	470.000 %
Bounty Collected	Killntime	407,838,097
Munitions Accuracy*	Psycho	85.893 %
Projectile Accuracy*	_Zora_	98.148 %
Total Conflux Kills	vorlon31	149,553
Experience	-JPR-	1,002,662,560
Mission Success Ratio*	Arkady	100 %
Insurance Rating*	Farve	10 %
Net Worth	McPlowed	c21,994,151,286
Duty Hours	RedDwarf	18,665.0
*minimum requirements to qualify


	QrazyKermi Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CT Posts: 579 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Friendly Fire in Jumpgate Evolution? Anyone know whether friendly fire will handled the same as it is in Jumpgate Classic? Will the "friendly" portion of that be determined by faction, squad, or some other factor like political allegiance? Will you be able to create a Sol pilot that joins an Oct squad, then shoot other Sols with no more penalties than his Oct squad mates?


	Badger Member Faction: None Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 153 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire As someone who hasn't played yet, can I ask how friendly fire is handled in Jumpgate Classic? I'm not sure I understand why it would be treated any differently, seeing as how Jumpgate seems to aim for realism.


	netburnr I love everyone Pilot Name: netburnrol Faction: Pirate Joystick: X52 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 2,279 Nominated 3 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 1	Re: Friendly Fire Well im not up to all this recent tag crap with squad wars (MT Tag), but before with Civ/HG, if you were HG you shoot anyone no penalty. If your civ and you shoot you get a temp bounty. If your HG and you shoot a civ, you get a temp. If your HG and kill HG, nothing, if your HG and kill a civ, perm bounty.


	Liet Member Pilot Name: Liet Joystick: Force Feedback2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 253 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire I am pro Friendly Fire.


	vorlon31 Member Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 832 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire Gaining temp bounties accidentally shooting squadies in Jumpgate Classic can be tiresome (although funny) but in a galaxy populated with x many players its a distraction I could do without. Saying that though, I doubt that its handling will differ from how it is in C.


	Wild_Bill Member Pilot Name: Wild_Bill Faction: Octavius Joystick: MS Sidewinder Precision Plus Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 800 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire Vorlon, watch out for our Vice President, he shoots, hits but only wounds lawyers... Our military are generally more lethal. I don't see "lighting up" someone's shields as deserving a bounty, temp or otherwise. Downing a pilot might depending on various factors.
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	vorlon31 Member Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 832 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire Add mortar use to the mix and you can splash multiple targets at once, from 6k away. I like mortars.


	Powo Member Joystick: Saitek Cyborg EVO Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California Posts: 117 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Friendly Fire Well Jumpgate isn't gonna be exactly like those games where you have to choose one faction and then fight or work for it. The decision was always in the hands of the player.