[Tim]

lol.. the schizophrenic vocal minority

[Tritian]

i dunno about this poll either. i think dahalb might be right. I think some people might have been 'Pulling a Bush' and voting multiple times by creating several different accounts.

Jump, is there a way you can check if multiple accounts have been logging in from the same IP address?

[Jump]

I have gotten no multiple accounts warnings lately.

Is Everyone going to start pointing fingers at each other now? Give it a break. A Lot of people come here with a lot of different viewpoints, some more outspoken than others. Voting is only open to active members as well. Far more people have come to this site since the poll started than have voted so I say the non votes have won again. If people are going to start freaking out when the poll doesn't meet their projections then I will just turn off polls. The last thing we need is more fights over nothing.

[Tritian]

i'm not freaking out, or pointing fingers. if you look, I didn't make any insinuations one way or the other as to which side would be 'cheating'. I was just making sure we have the most accurate information we can since the result seemed contrary to other polls we've had on the subject.

Also, I do not see whats so bad about logical skepticism. If the results aren't artificially altered and accurate, they can stand up to a little scrutiny.

[Jump]

Polls that are started by game devs and don't have baited wording like some others have are bound to atract more attention and get more votes. I don't see any other polls here that have had this many votes one way or the other. Keep in mind I put this poll on the front page as well.

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Tritian

Maybe dailatron is a bit of a tool. =)

Thanks . Thats a compliment right ?

[Milkman]

Originally Posted by TexMurphy

@Scorch

In addition to my vote Id like to add the following.

For me its all about imersion. Imho space is a dangerous place. I dont want to feel safe when I fly in space because if I wanted to feel safe I would be playing something else. So yes Im for there beeing a teoretical chance of me getting killed on any given occation when Im in the game.

Though I dont want space to be equaly safe/unsafe where ever I go. As I said immersion.

Its NOT immersive if I leave a capital station and I get killed by a pirate who is hanging out there totally alone. Flying near my nation/faction´s stations should be safe due to heavy traffic from PC and NPC defense forces. That to me increases immersion. As I travell further from my nation/factio´n´s capital I do want the thrill of danger to increase.

Just trading time as a investment for my reward is gameplay wise unacceptable for me. For a game to be appealing there has to be a sence of danger and the bigger the danger the bigger the reward (both ingame and mental satisfaction).

So to answer this straight from my point of view.

A space game with only consensual PvP looses all immersion.
A space game with non conseneual PvP implemented the wrong way looses all immersion.

Tex

What he said!

[Bingofuel]

Here is a thought

Pilots that want consentual PvP while in regulated space pays an extra launch fee that increases as you gain levels and/or is a % value of ship and cargo. The first 9 levels are free and garenteed consentual.

As you gain levels it may not be in your best interest to play consentual. But if your hauling precious cargo then you may want to pay the extra launch fee.

This way there is a price to pay for absolute protection. While protected any shots by players that hit you won't do damage. If you shoot a player your shots don't count so you can't suddenly change your mind mid flight. The fee will not cover you in unregulated space.

No matter what you will still be vulnerable to NPC attacks.

[Jump]

That's too contrived. There would have to be a more seamless approach and something that is not foolproof.

[Ambrosius]

Originally Posted by Tim

My favorite part of this thread, other than the totally random crud being drug up from years ago, is that it's basically a dead heat. For years, both sides have referred to their opponents as the 'vocal minority', clearly implying that their own side was the majority and thus must be right.

This poll, if nothing else, at least should put that 'vocal minority' crap to rest. It's pretty much an even split. It might be time to waive a white flag and respect both camps.

1) It's TWO vocal minorities bludgeoning each other repeatedly with their own redundant opinions.
2) Neither can claim to represent the future majority player base.
3) Netdevil simply has to make a decision on what it wants its game to be. Being all things to all people is generally a bad idea, so hopefully they do not take that route.
4) RATHA!

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Ambrosius

1) It's TWO vocal minorities bludgeoning each other repeatedly with their own redundant opinions.
2) Neither can claim to represent the future majority player base.
3) Netdevil simply has to make a decision on what it wants its game to be. Being all things to all people is generally a bad idea, so hopefully they do not take that route.
4) RATHA!

Hmm I would say the same about your opinions and ideas Ambro, which lets be honest arent that popular.