Netdevil could learn something from this review

GrimGriz

When he talks about FPS, pretend you hear space sim:
The Escapist : Zero Punctuation: Tabula Rasa

Eraser55

i love this show

netburnr

I love that guy.

And I liked his comment about MMOPRG and FPS shooters not getting along with the fancy circle chart.

I hope someone at the NetDevil office picks up on this and they get a good laugh while learning something.

Eraser55

Now watch MOH Airborne!!! lol Americans, F,.. yeah

Jonboy

Nice summary of a bunch of problems that ND faces.

vorlon31

Blurrg.... Themis?

Jump

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Originally Posted by vorlon31

Blurrg.... Themis?

That reminds me, I need to add that word to the filter.

It's funny but that guys shtick is always the same. High speed negative rambling with lot's of moving images that actually took much longer to put together.

GrimGriz

Funny or not, he brings up some good points

Eraser55

i love how he can make a perfectly entertaining game sound like a pile of crap in craphell.

But, I dont take his "reviews" seriously.. its most for laughs.

Scorch

Not sure what I should exactly be "learning" from this. The points he seems to make to me are:

-Grind is good

-FPS players are different than MMO players so do don't make an MMOFPS

-MMO players are dumb

Am I missing something? What is the hidden wisdom you want us to see in this? I do think its funny however.

Jump

Yes they are funny but shooting fish in a bucket is not sport. He did the same deal for BioShock but that game was obviously successful and it was/is fun.

GrimGriz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorch

Am I missing something? What is the hidden wisdom you want us to see in this? I do think its funny however.

I was hoping you'd see:
Don't clone WoW and add space sim bits.
Grind will alienate FPS/Space sim players.
Choose your target audience and please them well.

I guess the last part is the most important. Who is your target audience? Space simmers or MMORPG players? I guess I qualify as the former although I've got a couple MMORPGs under my belt right now. I couldn't be arsed in either of them to grind myself up to 50. It generally only took between 20 or 30 levels for the new to wear off and for things to start getting dull. WoW kept me a little longer because the crafting was really neat. I figure both WoW and CoH had me for about 6 months, but even so Jumpgate is the game I always wanted to play.

I guess more than anything I'm scared that Jumpgate Evolution will be too MMORPGy, and lose what made Jumpgate special.

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	GrimGriz Highest Order Hypocrite Faction: non-aligned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland Posts: 2,708 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Netdevil could learn something from this review When he talks about FPS, pretend you hear space sim: The Escapist : Zero Punctuation: Tabula Rasa


	Eraser55 Member Pilot Name: Eraser55 Faction: Hyperial Joystick: I hate Tigerwoods Join Date: May 2005 Location: HP SUxland.. Posts: 802 Nominated 2 Times in 2 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review i love this show
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	netburnr I love everyone Pilot Name: netburnrol Faction: Pirate Joystick: X52 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 2,279 Nominated 3 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 1	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review I love that guy. And I liked his comment about MMOPRG and FPS shooters not getting along with the fancy circle chart. I hope someone at the NetDevil office picks up on this and they get a good laugh while learning something.


	Jonboy Member Pilot Name: Jonboy Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 316 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review Nice summary of a bunch of problems that ND faces.


	vorlon31 Member Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 832 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review Blurrg.... Themis?


	Scorch Jumpgate Developer Pilot Name: GM_Scorch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 141 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review Not sure what I should exactly be "learning" from this. The points he seems to make to me are: -Grind is good -FPS players are different than MMO players so do don't make an MMOFPS -MMO players are dumb Am I missing something? What is the hidden wisdom you want us to see in this? I do think its funny however.


	Jump Big Daddy Pilot Name: JumpDemon Faction: Solrain Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tracy, Ca. Posts: 7,036	Re: Netdevil could learn something from this review Yes they are funny but shooting fish in a bucket is not sport. He did the same deal for BioShock but that game was obviously successful and it was/is fun.