PVP - what dont you like.

netburnr

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Originally Posted by Liet

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My bad, I got confused, its Trit's site....

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Zaz

For the thread title, i personally hate getting killed by the very guy i just wasted half my armour on as im making my way back for a dock and hes launching from a POS, but thats just the hazards of combat i guess.

I would like to see FF burning reduce armour as a penalty, would make speed docking a bit riskier and make pilots more aware and careful of FF use. I say armour/hull as we dont have an engine wear readout. What about that though ? every time you fire off a FF, your engine speed capacity drops by a certain percentage, that would be awesome and almost realistic.

As for kill-stealing, its the best skill a PvPer can ever have as far as im concerned, sure a lot of pilots can deal out a load of damage, but it takes a real cold-blooded soab to make a killshot :P

Eraser55

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Originally Posted by Zaz

As for kill-stealing, its the best skill a PvPer can ever have as far as im concerned, sure a lot of pilots can deal out a load of damage, but it takes a real cold-blooded soab to make a killshot :P

you owe me 10 oct kills!

Ambrosius

I know it's pricey but has anyone ever tried the CH Products Fighterstick?

CH Products - Retail Gaming Joysticks

From what I've read its very precise.

Injustice

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Originally Posted by Ambrosius

I know it's pricey but has anyone ever tried the CH Products Fighterstick?

CH Products - Retail Gaming Joysticks

From what I've read its very precise.

Looks like a nice stick, but it doesn't have yaw control that i can tell.

Ambrosius

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Originally Posted by Injustice

Looks like a nice stick, but it doesn't have yaw control that i can tell.

I assume by "yaw" you mean the "twist" functionality (which I use for roll). But that's a question I have, too. In write ups, it claims to have x, y and z axis control -- which I would assume is pitch, yaw and roll ... but I'm trying to get my hands on one to demo with Jumpgate Classic and Jumpgate Evolution.

Injustice

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Originally Posted by Ambrosius

I assume by "yaw" you mean the "twist" functionality (which I use for roll). But that's a question I have, too. In write ups, it claims to have x, y and z axis control -- which I would assume is pitch, yaw and roll ... but I'm trying to get my hands on one to demo with Jumpgate Classic and Jumpgate Evolution.

According to the webpage, the Z axis is actually the throttle, so my guess would be no.

Ambrosius

D'oh.With all the hat switches you could prolly assign roll-L, roll-R, AB and Brake to a 4-way hat. It would be different.This stick is clearly a flight sim (rather than gaming) stick so the lack of twist would not be surprising -- but I'd still love to give it a thorough shakedown with Jumpgate Classic/E.

DynamiK

It has probably been suggest before but FF's should burn AB fuel when they are used (Say 1/4 of your fuel for one FF). Or you could have it where you hold down an FF button much like you do AB but it burns fuel quicker. Either would improve this area of PvP, although I would lean more towards it burning a set percentage of fuel based on # of MODx slots and ship type. BTW.. people still play this game??

Deranged/DynamiK

Liet

Holy shit, it's Deranged!

Tritian

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Originally Posted by DynamiK

It has probably been suggest before but FF's should burn AB fuel when they are used (Say 1/4 of your fuel for one FF). Or you could have it where you hold down an FF button much like you do AB but it burns fuel quicker. Either would improve this area of PvP, although I would lean more towards it burning a set percentage of fuel based on # of MODx slots and ship type. BTW.. people still play this game??

Deranged/DynamiK

Yes these are great ideas.

Looking back, it probably was a mistake to balance all the ships/modx around FF's, rather then fixing the root of the problem, which was really how FFs work.

Maybe in Jumpgate Evolution, we can try giving everyone the same amount of FF (based on fuel usage, as a kinda nitro-boost afterburner like what Deranged suggests) and balance the ships in other ways?

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Solrain:	7
Octavius:	16
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	Zaz Cadet Pilot Name: lord_zaz Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cardiff, Wales Posts: 30 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: PVP - what dont you like. For the thread title, i personally hate getting killed by the very guy i just wasted half my armour on as im making my way back for a dock and hes launching from a POS, but thats just the hazards of combat i guess. I would like to see FF burning reduce armour as a penalty, would make speed docking a bit riskier and make pilots more aware and careful of FF use. I say armour/hull as we dont have an engine wear readout. What about that though ? every time you fire off a FF, your engine speed capacity drops by a certain percentage, that would be awesome and almost realistic. As for kill-stealing, its the best skill a PvPer can ever have as far as im concerned, sure a lot of pilots can deal out a load of damage, but it takes a real cold-blooded soab to make a killshot :P
		__________________ Where there's a will, there's a way


	Ambrosius Member Pilot Name: Ambrosius Faction: Quantar Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Stone Temple Posts: 1,864 Nominated 4 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3	Re: PVP - what dont you like. I know it's pricey but has anyone ever tried the CH Products Fighterstick? CH Products - Retail Gaming Joysticks From what I've read its very precise.
		__________________ Many of the things I hear about Jumpgate Evolution disappoint and concern me . . . but I look forward to beta and release to (hopefully) be proven wrong. -- Ambros.


	Ambrosius Member Pilot Name: Ambrosius Faction: Quantar Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Stone Temple Posts: 1,864 Nominated 4 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3	Re: PVP - what dont you like. D'oh.With all the hat switches you could prolly assign roll-L, roll-R, AB and Brake to a 4-way hat. It would be different.This stick is clearly a flight sim (rather than gaming) stick so the lack of twist would not be surprising -- but I'd still love to give it a thorough shakedown with Jumpgate Classic/E.


	DynamiK Recruit Pilot Name: Deranged Faction: non-aligned Joystick: MS Sidewinder PRO Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: United States Posts: 28 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: PVP - what dont you like. It has probably been suggest before but FF's should burn AB fuel when they are used (Say 1/4 of your fuel for one FF). Or you could have it where you hold down an FF button much like you do AB but it burns fuel quicker. Either would improve this area of PvP, although I would lean more towards it burning a set percentage of fuel based on # of MODx slots and ship type. BTW.. people still play this game?? Deranged/DynamiK


	Liet Member Pilot Name: Liet Joystick: Force Feedback2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 253 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: PVP - what dont you like. Holy shit, it's Deranged!