[netburnr]

I've been thinking about it, and I think Jumpgate Evolution's ships should be much faster then the current Jumpgate Classic ships.

I think it will cut down on travel time, slow down PvP (as ships can maneuver faster) and give the haulers a bigger profit/chance of getting shot down.

I picture it as the heavy fighter craft, maybe 750 ish. Smaller fighters 800-850, scouts/rangers 900, tows 1k or more.

Can anyone explain to me why everything is so slow in Jumpgate Classic?

[Jump]

I like going fast. Do we get a bigger blast if we hit Emma at a higher speed?

[vorlon31]

Yup, the right speed balanced against size is important. Too fast = not playable, too slow = not playable.

The other day I took a tow out to go harvesting biomass and I tell no word of a lie, I didnt get as far as the jumpgate out of that sector before I turned that crate around and put it right back where I'd borrowed it from. That ship is an example of what happens if the ship 'feels' too slow. Fr8rs dont feel slow because they are gutsy engined and BIG. Tows are neither gutsy or big so the speed they fly at doesnt work.

[Sephiroth]

I think mostly the speeds in Jumpgate Classic are pretty good.

[netburnr]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I think mostly the speeds in Jumpgate Classic are pretty good.

Can I ask a for a little more?


The reason I'm saying it is, doing anything just takes a ton of time. Just getting the right equipment when the stations arn't all stocked. Or trying to provide backup, or hell getting back into the fight.

Don't you think it would be better if it were all accelerated a bit?

Sure we can add some more drag to keep the PvP in check, but I just feel like that game overall is too slow.

[GrimGriz]

Not really. Jumpgate is basically a traveling game. It would be nice if you could play within a sector or 3...meaning if they were diverse/interesting enough to not have to fly all over the galaxy to do what you need to do. SC-QC "attack naps" were always my least favorite.

[ilk]

This is a point I was going to make in my Casual Gaming thread - if players have to travel for 30 minutes to get to the action (not uncommon in Jumpgate Classic even in it's heyday - especially as mentioned if multi-station reequipping was involved) then that completely rules out someone who only has an hour a night from getting anything done.

So it comes down to: How do you make space big AND keep travel times down? I think fewer busy and diverse sectors is preferable to many empty and boring ones, but it's easier to market a game as having a huge galaxy (like Eve did) than by saying "ok, so it's pretty small, but we promise it's great!"

[vorlon31]

Originally Posted by ilk

So it comes down to: How do you make space big AND keep travel times down? I think fewer busy and diverse sectors is preferable to many empty and boring ones, but it's easier to market a game as having a huge galaxy (like Eve did) than by saying "ok, so it's pretty small, but we promise it's great!"

In built non-jumpgate jump capablity based on AB fuel would be good. You can speed up your flight by leap-frogging some of the sectors on your journey BUT only if you have the fuel, the device fitted and youd need to make sure you kept some fuel back for docking (if your not good at non ab docking).

Run out of fuel? Want to keep the fuel back in case of trouble? - use the jumpgates

[usalman]

Just so I understand Vorlon are you suggesting that jumps could work more like Elite where the fuel you had available and the size of your ship dictated a range of sectors into which you could jump to?

If so I could travel from Wake to DG if I had sufficient range and fuel to allow the jump?

This could really speed up the erosion of my insurance rating

[Algore]

I'm a strong believer that if it takes someone a long time to get requipped or back into a fight then they realy need to look at their logistics from a preparation POV.

[Hornet]

I dunno, I thought the speed was ok in Jumpgate Classic. Maybe a lil slow, but it seemed somewhat in scale with the distance between gates. Size vs speed in a travel game is a tricky one.

[Bingofuel]

Originally Posted by vorlon31

Yup, the right speed balanced against size is important. Too fast = not playable, too slow = not playable.

The other day I took a tow out to go harvesting biomass and I tell no word of a lie, I didnt get as far as the jumpgate out of that sector before I turned that crate around and put it right back where I'd borrowed it from. That ship is an example of what happens if the ship 'feels' too slow. Fr8rs dont feel slow because they are gutsy engined and BIG. Tows are neither gutsy or big so the speed they fly at doesnt work.

The heavy miner made the best Bio-Masser, Hauler, Miner. Like you if it feels slow or doesn't turn fast, I won't use it despite how much cargo space it has. I would rather make multiple trips at a faster speed than 1 big haul that takes all day.