WoW

netburnr

Can we make a new rule?

Automatically throw out any idea that comes from WoW.

If neh, I'll shut up about it.

Sorry no pie (too serious)

Jump

Why would we do that? Differences of opinion are ok.

Bri

Never EVER use the acronym for that game. While it is one of the better marketing ploys in MMO history, the word 'wow' cannot be used with Warcraft in any other manner beyond 'wow, what a waste of time', 'wow, what a peice of shit', or similar.

WileE

I would say no, Warcraft does some things well. Their crafting system is good for example.

It is short-sighted to dismiss ideas out of hand.

Lordopic

Quote:

Originally Posted by netburnrol

Sorry no pie (too serious)

haveing never played it i need the pie option

Jonboy

Some things in WoW are good. Others are bad.

I can see some of the bad things in WoW being mentioned as good for Jumpgate Evolution in the Hermann interview at Massively.com. Level grinds, end-game mind-set, rolling grinds as a counter to inflation, cash-sinks, instanced PvP and dungeons are all bad, IMO. but they keep the cash rolling in. and they are all in for a reason. The fundamental difference between WoW and Jumpgate Classic is the loot-based system in WoW.

EVERYTHING in WoW revolves around how good loot you can get, and what you can put up with to get it. Jumpgate Classic was able to avoid that and work well.

ELPIRATA

I havent played WOW but I think its more wise to evaluate ideas and see if they could work and then work from it (or dismiss).

ELP

Eraser55

I think its good to pick up inspiration from other games. BUT. I have seen alot of comments of no mather what type of game you make, as long as it is good people will play it.

Well. If I want to play Wow, I will play Wow. If I want to play Halo or counterstrike or Quake, I will play those games.

What they need to remember is what are they making? Is it a MMORPG, is it jumpgate? wth is it?

I certenly want to play something that resembels to the old Jumpgate. With the persistant universe, with everything that made it great and even more things, without ruining the core elements.

Jump

So, you mean to tell me WoW does not stand for Weekend of War? Oh My

Bingofuel

WoW is an excelent example of well designed and implemented game mechanics. Particulary in the area of PvP.

Jonboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingofuel

WoW is an excelent example of well designed and implemented game mechanics. Particulary in the area of PvP.

Is this a joke? World of warcraft has TERRIBLE PvP mechanics, particularly instanced PvP arenas and battlegrounds. But this isn't the warcraft forums. I will be arguing strongly AGAINST a lot of ideas from WoW when it comes to PvP.

If it is a joke... haha... i guess.

project3wc

battlegrounds in WoW prevent higher players from ganking lowbies and prevents lowbies from getting pissed and leaving the game for being ganked, although World pvp is hella fun in WOW.

anyway i said no because WoW is a very successful game and hopefully jumpgate will borrow some of their ideas and be as big as bungie. ( just being user friendly but keeping the same ol hardcore Jumpgate Classic shhhtuff )

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	Jump Big Daddy Pilot Name: JumpDemon Faction: Solrain Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tracy, Ca. Posts: 6,957	Re: WoW Why would we do that? Differences of opinion are ok.
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	Bri Recruit Pilot Name: Bri Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek Cyborg Evo Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Re: WoW Never EVER use the acronym for that game. While it is one of the better marketing ploys in MMO history, the word 'wow' cannot be used with Warcraft in any other manner beyond 'wow, what a waste of time', 'wow, what a peice of shit', or similar.
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	WileE Member Pilot Name: WileE Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 252	Re: WoW I would say no, Warcraft does some things well. Their crafting system is good for example. It is short-sighted to dismiss ideas out of hand.


	Jonboy Member Pilot Name: Jonboy Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 315	Re: WoW Some things in WoW are good. Others are bad. I can see some of the bad things in WoW being mentioned as good for Jumpgate Evolution in the Hermann interview at Massively.com. Level grinds, end-game mind-set, rolling grinds as a counter to inflation, cash-sinks, instanced PvP and dungeons are all bad, IMO. but they keep the cash rolling in. and they are all in for a reason. The fundamental difference between WoW and Jumpgate Classic is the loot-based system in WoW. EVERYTHING in WoW revolves around how good loot you can get, and what you can put up with to get it. Jumpgate Classic was able to avoid that and work well.


	ELPIRATA Moderator Pilot Name: ELPIRATA Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek X45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 1,421	Re: WoW I havent played WOW but I think its more wise to evaluate ideas and see if they could work and then work from it (or dismiss). ELP


	Eraser55 Member Pilot Name: Eraser55 Faction: Hyperial Joystick: I hate Tigerwoods Join Date: May 2005 Location: HP SUxland.. Posts: 757	Re: WoW I think its good to pick up inspiration from other games. BUT. I have seen alot of comments of no mather what type of game you make, as long as it is good people will play it. Well. If I want to play Wow, I will play Wow. If I want to play Halo or counterstrike or Quake, I will play those games. What they need to remember is what are they making? Is it a MMORPG, is it jumpgate? wth is it? I certenly want to play something that resembels to the old Jumpgate. With the persistant universe, with everything that made it great and even more things, without ruining the core elements.
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	Jump Big Daddy Pilot Name: JumpDemon Faction: Solrain Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tracy, Ca. Posts: 6,957	Re: WoW So, you mean to tell me WoW does not stand for Weekend of War? Oh My


	Bingofuel Member Faction: Solrain Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 135	Re: WoW WoW is an excelent example of well designed and implemented game mechanics. Particulary in the area of PvP.


	project3wc Member Pilot Name: Celphir,Project Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek X52 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 282	Re: WoW battlegrounds in WoW prevent higher players from ganking lowbies and prevents lowbies from getting pissed and leaving the game for being ganked, although World pvp is hella fun in WOW. anyway i said no because WoW is a very successful game and hopefully jumpgate will borrow some of their ideas and be as big as bungie. ( just being user friendly but keeping the same ol hardcore Jumpgate Classic shhhtuff )