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Old 07-25-2005, 11:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone else rather miffed by the tone the GM's take when they speak at us?

While GMK is out there barking "let me make this clear"... I'm eyeing my TRIC button.

Anyone actually know what he's talking about with the eruptions?
I've never even seen one.

Sad really, 90% of the times I've gone TRIC, it's been because of unprofessional behaviour from GM's.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In defense of the GM's, a lot of them have considerably less pilot time in-game than the majority of posters here. Secondly, no matter how much pilot experience they may have, they may not have all that much training or experience as a Game Moderator, etc. I doubt it's that high paying of a job either. Accept that they, like you, are trying their best to get the most out of the game experience.

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Old 07-25-2005, 12:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm.


I don't know that pilot time really affects the way you treat others.

It's largely a question of very basic social skills. The prologue to the introduction to Customer Service 101.

I can appreciate that it's not an easy job. I don't doubt that the pay isn't good. However, there is a lot to be said for civility if one wishes to work with customers. In essence, the Game Moderators may want to use a bit of moderation in their own responses as they are there to moderate, *not* subjugate and that point feels lost more often than not.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, GMK made clear that exploiting the system will have dire consequences. That was the case all along on US server.

I do not see anything wrong with his statement. It is plain, simple and to the point.
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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G.Rasputin suggested this and it actually happened.
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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To be specific, crashing high level conflux into eruptions for fast easy cash and xp is officially considered and exploit and a bannable offense. If you find yourself making fast easy cash and xp, it's probably an exploit
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So this was a flux matter farm?
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for explaining it GrimGriz. Must admit, the fact that high level flux crash into their own stations (or whatever those things are) is simply Hilarious from an RP standpoint, imho. I'm not even going to debate what is an exploit and what isn't as to me, there's no point in that, I saw in the whole matter farming feature that once something is deemed an exploit, no amount of reasoning will ever turn that tide.


but I still say the GM's note was overly abrasive...
now everybody agree with me or I'm throwing you all out!!
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Old 07-25-2005, 05:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It looked like a warning for those like interorka, who would "exploit" the flux AI. But because noone ever said anything, they could always argue that it was not an exploit of the game, but of stupid flux.... Now they have no excuse.

They should really fix flux so that they are not exploitable, instead of making proclamations from on high tho. I just don't think Ist has figured out how, yet.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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believing flux crash into their own stations isn't that hard.. as i recall, crashing into one's own station is rather easy, in fact.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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As is crashing into other big, immobile objects that haven't moved in ages (if ever)...

*innocent whistling*

*ahem*

As for warning vs fix, the warning doesn't preclude a fix, you know. As Istvan has mentioned in the past, he's got a fairly healthy backlog of stuff to address.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The crashing into eruptions is not with out risk but once you know how to do it its quite easy, ( havnt done it my self , well once did it to a swarm)
Just like to say we kicked some one out of Flux Cleance on the EU for splashing swarms into aman station, and he mouthed off alot on MG-Forums etc). I think maybe the ban is a bit harsh if you want to be that lame about killing your flux go ahead me i prefer to fight the good fight.
But this had even caused debate on our own Forums, to do with towing swarms splashing agasint stations/POS/ CP, and i think until Iatavan can sort or improve the AI of the conflux, people will continue to use this tactic.
(and yes i know he has a shead load of stuff to sort)
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't see the problem with crashing flux, they are stupid and therefore crashing them should be allowed. If they are that bothered then they need to switch off the way you get exp. In City of Heroes if the enemy your chasing gets caught by a police bot and vanishes you don't get the exp for it but you don't get punished for staying alive.
Swarms are a silly invention in my opinion, crashing them is a way to remove their sillyness so you can continue with the game. Swarms are dangerous to traders and need clearing, I suppose your exploiting by killing one on you lonesome by crashing it even if your meaning is to keep others safe and not for easy cash and exp. I mean murder is murder wether its in cold blood or revenge, no dif here i suppose...

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Old 07-26-2005, 10:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Aha, another point we disagree on. Swarms are a lot more interesting than spawning, and give fluxxers a reason to interact with other players. Spawning is stupid imo (especially when you're trying to pvp).
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