[Jump]

LOL. I'm probably going to get banned from JGW. But it really irks me when people are given the sandbox they so desire and then they insit on kicking the sand out and messing up the yard. When a nice guy like Wild_bill can't state his opinion on a subject without being insulted and called some nasty name.

What irks me more is how they all love JGW so much, but for years now, Hornet has been working his but off to get people to use the site, and they ignored him. Think about it. If they had gone there after PJG closed down would there have been any of these problems that eminated from the JOSSH forums? Most likely not.

[crackrat]

very very true my wise man heck before all this went down jgw was almost a ghost town which saddened me cause i know how hard hornet has worked. he was my second for smp for a long time afterall. lillith whom i do respect and have known for long time isnt really helping sqeltch this either. really the most ironic thing i see out of this is the very peeps tearing jgw to shreads are the ones that were the worst elements in game. seriously would you want your kids playing a game with the language that was going on. and same token i do understand TG really didnt do prper crowd control god what a visious circle. personaly in talks with ist ive came to conclusion that as part of my ongoing degree im working on im going to include a sem of social behavior study lol. pretty bad when a coder has to learn about pych to do his job right. ow and a sem in spelling darn mavis beakon fails me

side note right now TG is trying to put out a wild fire with a garden hose so most emails prolly wont get returned and well from personal exp they are not the best at sending replys even when as a curtesy they should. another symtom to the problem at hand.

[Jump]

At the least it will help you deal with customers. LOL

Customer: I want this and that and, oh yeah, that other thing. Yesterday!

[crackrat]

yep had that in bartending its amazing how many peeps figuire if they avoid the line and stand at the other end of the bar that they will get faster service lol

or how peeps that dont tip feel that snapping thier fingers is going to get the next round going any faster lol on a 7000 dollar night of pouring those peeps get forgotten lol

[crackrat]

ow side note on gm_K he isnt with themis as far as I know he had a really good job offer come along outside of the game industry and well also he really wanted more time with his baby and wife. more power to him. I knew GM_ K quite well and hope his days are filled with pleasure i wish he would get ahold of me. Im not so sure the razorx thing is really the answer either, but well theres alot of straw pulling going on atm (kinda obvious)trying to figuire out what is going to work, at least from what from what ide seen lol

god i keep this up and everyone will think im muffy
except muffy could spell and didnt do run-on sentences

[Jump]

Aren't you? LOL

I remember hearing something like that about GM_K.

[Shual]

Originally Posted by Jump

LOL. I'm probably going to get banned from JGW. But it really irks me when people are given the sandbox they so desire and then they insit on kicking the sand out and messing up the yard. When a nice guy like Wild_bill can't state his opinion on a subject without being insulted and called some nasty name.

It would seem that I have not given you nearly the respect that you deserve. You chose to stand up for someone who was the victim of unwarranted verbal abuse, without resorting to such abuse yourself. Your actions should not get you banned, but rather, applauded.

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by crackrat

Ive been in close contact with ist and hes at a loss of what to do in many ways. as a coder its really not his field of expertise. scortch im sure is in the same shoes.

I still think the best solution would be a server side filter that auto-mutes anyone that triggers it for an hour would accomplish the same goal and save TG time not having to read the chatlogs. I'd also like to see a /command that would tag the chatlog so that it could be checked for harassment. ie. If someone was giving you chit on f4 and wouldn't leave you alone you could do /report f4 which would mark the chatlog for the GMs to look in the right spot.

[Jump]

Originally Posted by GrimGriz

I still think the best solution would be a server side filter that auto-mutes anyone that triggers it for an hour would accomplish the same goal and save TG time not having to read the chatlogs. I'd also like to see a /command that would tag the chatlog so that it could be checked for harassment. ie. If someone was giving you chit on f4 and wouldn't leave you alone you could do /report f4 which would mark the chatlog for the GMs to look in the right spot.

I disagree. It's not too much to ask people to behave. Should I have to have special filtering ear muffs in my own house to spare myself from foul guests? No, I'll just throw them out on thier hind quarters and shut the door. Foul people should never ever be apeased in RL or online. They can create thier own little foul places and be foul to each other as they please. But in an environment that is open to all, civility and propriety should always be enforced.

Originally Posted by Shual

It would seem that I have not given you nearly the respect that you deserve. You chose to stand up for someone who was the victim of unwarranted verbal abuse, without resorting to such abuse yourself. Your actions should not get you banned, but rather, applauded.

Thank you for your kind words. I believe most people are good people. They have bad days and good days, but overall, they are good and strive to be so. Unfortunately, most of them feel that ignoring bad behavior, or leaving it alone is part of being a good person. And that's not really a bad thing. But if everyone spoke up when the nasty people dumped thier loads they would be silenced in a flood of decency.

Good people keep thier communities and neighborhoods in civil working order in real life. They should do the same online. We don't need regulations and laws on the net. Just good people holding the line. That keyboard may be bolder than the tongue, but it is nowhere near as sharp. A foul person is no more powerful than those that stand and approve.

Those that strive to be good need to stand up to those that strive to be foul. No matter how unconfortable it makes us feel. IMO

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by Jump

I disagree. It's not too much to ask people to behave. Should I have to have special filtering ear muffs in my own house to spare myself from foul guests? No, I'll just throw them out on thier hind quarters and shut the door. Foul people should never ever be apeased in RL or online. They can create thier own little foul places and be foul to each other as they please. But in an environment that is open to all, civility and propriety should always be enforced.

That'd depend on how much I needed the cover charge. I think an hour of enforced silent is enforcement. At the minimum, other players would see:
'Holy ****! That's a big conflux.'

Then not hear anything from me for an hour. I'm certain it'd get the point across, and people would stop being foul. If they weren't, and used their rudimentary intelligence to be billigerent without triggering the filter, then a quick /report and they could be dealt with. I've seen plenty of otherwise civil people use an expletive when something bad or unexpected happens (hitting a petal, etc). Definitely not worthy of a perm ban from the game, even if 4 bad or unexpected things happen over the course of 6 months.

[Jump]

Screaming an expletive when you hit your thumb with a hammer is a natural event that everyone understands and can forgive. Proceding to type out that expletive is a conscious event and done with intent not as a natural reaction.

Just thought I would distinguish that.

[crackrat]

well for what its worth ist has said on open forum that there is a system about 70% done that was never implemented due to 3do imagine that im sure it prolly a reality in future but yes alot of the peeps that seem to abuse basic principles of the boards and of the game seem also to be those that are causing the most in convienance to the rest...

@ shual bro relize jd is one of the greats as are most that haunt this forum...lol i thought you were taught better of the way of the papaya actually shual forgive me you still hold a warm spot from me from smp....