[Jump]

that Jumpgate is making a comeback. The single players have arrived.

Go easy on em kids.

[GrimGriz]

I give him 2 weeks.

[Ambrosius]

I give him 2 days. After that BS even I'm ready to start civving him.

[Jump]

You guys shouldn't get so worked up over it. In fact, you should never respond to those threads. It's just trolling, or "forum pvp" if you will. Which is not good for any game or it's community.

[Wild_Bill]

So he's a whiney ass who hasn't earned a right to bitch.. at least he's paying and playing. He also has a point. I too am fed up with the PvP-centric game design/philosophy that's come to dominate damn near everything in and about JumpGate. Attack of the Conflux my tired, scarred butt!

Oh Istvan talks a good game, but what has he done for the non-combat crowd... let's see... well he took away the matter farms, then he took away the high-profit runs..(you know, those things that let the stockers absorb the horrible losses on stocking runs?) but most of the haulers have left anyway... he's nerfed the missiles that worked the best on the flux ... nerfed the tow .. jacked up the flux spawns to harass the remaining miners .. then gave the squids ammo guns and he snails mortars .. made flux harvesting/mining more difficult/dangerous...
But he did take away the taxes... altthough with the prices the same all across the universe there's not much incentive to haul equipment and "everyone says" the universe has too much equipment anyway even if shortages are just around the corner...

But he reinvigorated the transports, fast transports, medium fighters and light fighters...

What I'm saying is with all the work Istvan has put into the game, nearly every change he's made this year ended up making the game less fun for me personally to play. Looking at the game numbers, I'm not the only one feeling this way. Biggest differnce is I'm bitching, but I'm staying. I still want to see more game content for the non-combat pilots to play with.

[Jump]

Yes, but you have been playing for years. This person has not and has declared allmighty judgement on the community. It's apples and oranges bud.

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by Ambrosius

I give him 2 days. After that BS even I'm ready to start civving him.

Why? It's been said at least a hundred times, by at least a hundred players that have left the game. It boils down to a few simple facts:

- With the exception of the freighter (which was introduced possibly after they started figuring it out) and the oct HM, there are NO non-pvp ships designed to SURVIVE much less defend themselves from pvp attacks.

- People apparently like to bully others, and while squad's like [squad]Vae Victis[/squad] tend to draw members like flies to ****, squads that are supposed to be the Good Guys (at least for their faction) like [squad]Brotherhood[/squad] can rarely keep pvpers, or keep their non-pvpers from getting griefed. For some reason, there's not a group of pvpers that want to be the good guys and that will protect these other players, and to my knowledge there has never been a successful group of that kind. (closest ever was PHOENIX IIRC, which I had my boys attack for multifactionalism, I guess I grew up some )