[GrimGriz]

GrimGriz's Ore Refining Report

[JoeStraz]

I own http://www.allin1websolutions.com . I'd be happy to donate a Plan #1 (200MB HD space and 4,000MB bandwidth) to a website of yours if you want. This is great info.

[JoeStraz]

You know, I always expected to make a lot more from selling the refined products over just selling the ore. This kind of disappoints me in a way. From what I can see, I'm better off mining and dropping at Oct Depot for mining missions.

[Milkman]

Wow... i though refining increased the value of the ore... guess not.

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by JoeStraz

You know, I always expected to make a lot more from selling the refined products over just selling the ore. This kind of disappoints me in a way. From what I can see, I'm better off mining and dropping at Oct Depot for mining missions.

I'm not sure what the mission reward bonus is at the moment, but depending on where your POS is, you could still lose out. My POS is in Aman Gate, which is an awesome sector for asteroids. However, flight time to any TRI station (especially when heavy) makes me lose a lot of credits (I also hate hauling). Remember those are the default prices, and since they are at a POS they aren't taxed. You can set those prices to whatever you want.

Istvan is also considering adding an incentive to refine. I am trying to convince him to give credit and xp award when you refine, so that mining at a POS will be equal reward to doing mining missions at a TRI station. Right now, mining at a POS get's you no xp.

The biggest plus of refining at the moment is that you control what happens to your ore. If a squad hires you for flashfire ingredients, you can setprice phosphorous to 100,000 to save it up. If someone wants it at that price you still make out like a bandit. Sell your ore to any station other than depot (which is really far for me) and who knows what it will use your phosphorous for.

On the other hand, unless something has changed recently, if you have an ore silo you can sell your ore straight to your POS without refining, and it is..*ahem* teleported *ahem* to your factions storage depot station. I can't really tell what credits you get from that though. Ore prices show up weird in POS, and you usually get a LOT more than they show.

[JoeStraz]

That's exactly the reason why I was toying with the idea of putting my station in the Gurge or Ring View. I figured both have decent roids, and both are relatively close to TRI stations so I could haul commods after they were refined. I figured I'd make a ton more then by just bringing my ore to a Depot.

What I do now is I mine till my cargo is relatively full or my house work is done . Then I bring my ore to Depot for processing getting missions for each of the 5 types. Then, I'll see what cargo mission is present, accept it, and bring along anything else that will make me money on the trip. From that station, I'll either log off or start the cycle again. This way, I get XP, the mission bonus, and any profit I make on my cargo run.

So, unless I'm missing something, I will lose all XP potential and some money making potential by going to a POS.

[ELPIRATA]

Joe:

Remember that pos location is either factional space, aman/hyp and unreg

[JoeStraz]

Originally Posted by ELPIRATA

Joe:

Remember that pos location is either factional space, aman/hyp and unreg

Yeah, I understand that. So Grim is making out because his station is in Aman gate where some very good roids are. I always wanted to play a dual role of miner/hauler so that is why I was thinkin Gurge or Ring View since it's close enough for me to transport to TRI stations. If I am going to let my ore "transport" to Oct Depot, then it might make sense to put my station in a far away sector somewhere where the roids are great.

Everytime I think I come up with a good location for my station, I always come up with reasons why another sector would be better *sigh*

[GrimGriz]

That link should be good for awhile now thanks to a kindly benefactor.

Joe, it's not a bad idea to check the myrotacol database for the sector you're planning on before you build. It'll give you some idea of what's there (better to check yourself) and more importantly, what other people are going to know about what's in your sector.

Like the hero I am, I released my private maps of Aman Gate to myrotacol (I was trying to convince TRI it was worthwhile to put an ore depot there at the time).

[ELPIRATA]

Joe: In general.. unreg space is very good cause the roid types are varied. I'm in inner storm cause its also a wide variety of stuff in here, though I wish there was a hollow on it too.. but you can't ask for everything I guess...

Pulsar has been one of my favs place to mine cause it has of everything around the beacon, and big.

ELP

[JoeStraz]

Well, I setup in the Gurge. About 40k from Oct Shore, 25k from Ring View and I think 35k from Dark X-Roads. Thanks for all the info .. it's appreciated.