Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers?

netburnr

This thread is to brainstorm ways for ND to get some life back into Jumpgate Classic especially if they plan on keeping it around when Jumpgate Evolution is released.

I say, lower the monthly fee or get rid of it, and support the game with in game billboard advertising.

If that is not possible, hire more programmers and upgrade Jumpgate Classic side by side with Jumpgate Evolution and give them equal amount of love.

Ideas?

Bri

I think the most likely occurance would be that they would include Jumpgate Classic in with the Jumpgate Evolution subscription and watch the numbers from there. If the classic server does well compared to the evolution servers, more work will be put into it.

ELPIRATA

To me, the only way to bring Jumpgate Classic to life is by bringing back old names into activity, which is likely not to happen since it would require them actually playing.

I mean, if some folks see names like: (not in order)

CobraMac, @zmyth, Karash, The_Tyke, Tesrend, Valen, Aubrey, Ridgeway and/or Raiderr and Lothar.... Im sure many folks would go like crazy to see what the hell is going on.

Wish my CC would arrive... Im so desperate on taking the dust off my x45

The other way would to do the small fixes many folks have asked, like tows returned to pre-nerf status and emall changes to the economy.... and Id think numbers would get better.

Another factor that could affect it, which may be tied to those famous names, is to see the old famous squads back in action and in numbers. I know its not fun to see 12 OV's online while you being the only quant MT pilot in there (I use squads as an example), but on the other hand, would be worse if OV was never there for a fight to happen.

I guess it all goes back to the bad feeling of being ganked by so many. If squads would voluntarily send less numbers but not necesarily equal numbers (after all they are all active and they shouldnt be penalized for being active), split your forces between sol and quant space (for the OV example, same for say either QH or STARS) and regroup if either faction numbers grow.

To me, one of the things that helps is having sol and quants at war, which I dont know hows going since I've been away for now 2 months, and a lil' bit more Id say.

The issue is complicated, solutions are available but there arent perfect solutions for Jumpgate Classic.

ELP

Istanbul

I don't think the game should be dropped down to a free monthly charge, mostly because any ad company looking at it is going to say, you have 'that many' online people at once and you expect me to pay HOW MUCH to have an ad in your game?!?!'. I'd definitely strongly consider lowering the monthly fee, if for no reason than that it is getting no maintenance other than pilot account support (when the system works) and server restarts when it crashes, with a bit of stability debugging. The GMs taking turns showing up in game for 30 minutes a week might help a little bit too, especially if they do a bit of flying

. Also, I'd really love it if we had an event/RP/all GM putting in 10 hours a week even. 5 prep, 5 online. Any little bit we get sure can't hurt imo.

Sephiroth

Make the game free.
Update graphics.
Fix the broken aspects of the game (like the tag system) and scrap all the bandaid fixes for real fixes.
E-mail the previous subscriber base when finished.

Just a few potential ideas.

I doubt any of this will take place though.

Smegit

We already got the new net code bolted on from Jumpgate Evolution. Assuming Jumpgate Evolution actually started out as an upgraded Jumpgate Classic (a fair assumption I reckon) then cant the graphics also be bolted on?

Of course then all the current ships/stations would have to be re-modeled so its hardly minimal effort but it should be do-able.

How much that would boost on-line numbers I'm not sure, but it would see some drift back in game.

Smeg

Eraser55

they could connect the AI server to Jumpgate Classic

?

netburnr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eraser55

they could connect the AI server to Jumpgate Classic

?

Whats the point then, it would just be Jumpgate Evolution at that point.

Eraser55

just the haulers/miners-- so theres equip.

Algore

Punish those who exploit and cheat more quickly. That's why I have been rarely online recently.
Oh, and OV do regulary send less numbers to fight sols, only to be outnumbered when the shoe is on the other foot. Quants made their bed, they can lie in it.

Regards
Al

sentinels

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algore

Punish those who exploit and cheat more quickly. That's why I have been rarely online recently.
Oh, and OV do regulary send less numbers to fight sols, only to be outnumbered when the shoe is on the other foot. Quants made their bed, they can lie in it.

Regards
Al

holy crap we agree on something...

yes, quants made their bed. now to submit them to oct rule!

Ambrosius

I think a free "Reunion Week" capped, perhaps, by another Weekend of War would draw a lot of people . . . but I would hold off on doing this until shortly before the opening of Jumpgate Evolution beta to create buzz.

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	Bri Recruit Pilot Name: Bri Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek Cyborg Evo Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? I think the most likely occurance would be that they would include Jumpgate Classic in with the Jumpgate Evolution subscription and watch the numbers from there. If the classic server does well compared to the evolution servers, more work will be put into it.
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	ELPIRATA Moderator Pilot Name: ELPIRATA Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek X45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 1,427	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? To me, the only way to bring Jumpgate Classic to life is by bringing back old names into activity, which is likely not to happen since it would require them actually playing. I mean, if some folks see names like: (not in order) CobraMac, @zmyth, Karash, The_Tyke, Tesrend, Valen, Aubrey, Ridgeway and/or Raiderr and Lothar.... Im sure many folks would go like crazy to see what the hell is going on. Wish my CC would arrive... Im so desperate on taking the dust off my x45 The other way would to do the small fixes many folks have asked, like tows returned to pre-nerf status and emall changes to the economy.... and Id think numbers would get better. Another factor that could affect it, which may be tied to those famous names, is to see the old famous squads back in action and in numbers. I know its not fun to see 12 OV's online while you being the only quant MT pilot in there (I use squads as an example), but on the other hand, would be worse if OV was never there for a fight to happen. I guess it all goes back to the bad feeling of being ganked by so many. If squads would voluntarily send less numbers but not necesarily equal numbers (after all they are all active and they shouldnt be penalized for being active), split your forces between sol and quant space (for the OV example, same for say either QH or STARS) and regroup if either faction numbers grow. To me, one of the things that helps is having sol and quants at war, which I dont know hows going since I've been away for now 2 months, and a lil' bit more Id say. The issue is complicated, solutions are available but there arent perfect solutions for Jumpgate Classic. ELP


	Istanbul Member Pilot Name: Istanbul Joystick: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WI Posts: 786	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? I don't think the game should be dropped down to a free monthly charge, mostly because any ad company looking at it is going to say, you have 'that many' online people at once and you expect me to pay HOW MUCH to have an ad in your game?!?!'. I'd definitely strongly consider lowering the monthly fee, if for no reason than that it is getting no maintenance other than pilot account support (when the system works) and server restarts when it crashes, with a bit of stability debugging. The GMs taking turns showing up in game for 30 minutes a week might help a little bit too, especially if they do a bit of flying . Also, I'd really love it if we had an event/RP/all GM putting in 10 hours a week even. 5 prep, 5 online. Any little bit we get sure can't hurt imo.
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	Sephiroth Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 503	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? Make the game free. Update graphics. Fix the broken aspects of the game (like the tag system) and scrap all the bandaid fixes for real fixes. E-mail the previous subscriber base when finished. Just a few potential ideas. I doubt any of this will take place though.


	Smegit Member Pilot Name: Smegit Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Microsoft Sidewinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Possibly the pub Posts: 169	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? We already got the new net code bolted on from Jumpgate Evolution. Assuming Jumpgate Evolution actually started out as an upgraded Jumpgate Classic (a fair assumption I reckon) then cant the graphics also be bolted on? Of course then all the current ships/stations would have to be re-modeled so its hardly minimal effort but it should be do-able. How much that would boost on-line numbers I'm not sure, but it would see some drift back in game. Smeg
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	Eraser55 Member Pilot Name: Eraser55 Faction: Hyperial Joystick: I hate Tigerwoods Join Date: May 2005 Location: HP SUxland.. Posts: 761	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? they could connect the AI server to Jumpgate Classic ?
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	Algore Member Pilot Name: Algore Joystick: MS Force Feedback 2 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Belfast. Northern Ireland Posts: 558	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? Punish those who exploit and cheat more quickly. That's why I have been rarely online recently. Oh, and OV do regulary send less numbers to fight sols, only to be outnumbered when the shoe is on the other foot. Quants made their bed, they can lie in it. Regards Al


	Ambrosius Member Pilot Name: Ambrosius Faction: Quantar Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Stone Temple Posts: 1,646	Re: Is there anything ND can do to raise the online numbers? I think a free "Reunion Week" capped, perhaps, by another Weekend of War would draw a lot of people . . . but I would hold off on doing this until shortly before the opening of Jumpgate Evolution beta to create buzz.
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