[Elmdor]

Meh, combat discoing unfortunately has never been considered cheating, because the ghost used to stay there. Of course, with the cutty and FF disco bug I believe it was changed to prevent it from being exploited. Needs to be fixed

On the other hand, even though I may dislike a person, he or she should not be banned for non threatening comments, that are basically insulting. Sure there is a certain line, usually starting with physical threats, or the like, but no one deserves to be banned for whining, even if said whine is illegitimate (Not saying that the whines were unjustified, just coming from a irreputable source.)

[Algore]

Combat discoing is cheating, plain and simple.
If any1 wants the long winded version of exactly all the other factors involed here pm and we can go TS.

I agree with the rest Elmdor.
I'm no angel, but I'm never vindictive. Those that have spoken to me before will know that, painless as it might be to admit in public due to their propaganda.

You lost me on the illigetimate bit btw, your not a Jerry Springer researcher are you

Regards
Al

[Supermax]

Swearing should only ever be punished by muting the offender. Only in cases of real-life threats, sexual harrassment or gross sexual references should a ban be issued.

just my 2 cents

[SingleShot]

Originally Posted by Supermax

Swearing should only ever be punished by muting the offender. Only in cases of real-life threats, sexual harrassment or gross sexual references should a ban be issued.

just my 2 cents

Perhaps, but I've never seen a person on US muted. Ever. It has just never been used like it was on EU, no idea why.

[Sephiroth]

SS: Because Themis is dumb, duh.

[Supermax]

AFAIK the Euro GM team never had any problems with Algore's way of speaking his mind, except perhaps on the forums.

Perhaps ND should have dumped Themis and taken over MightyGames' volunteer GM team (at least that part of it that was willing to join).

Even with as small a community as the current Jumpgate population appears to be, one or maybe 2 GMs obviously aren't quite enough.

[Ambrosius]

More cheating, public profanity and forum flame wars . . . looks like the "community" is doing a job on Jumpgate once again.

[LaVey]

The servers have never been ran the same, just face it.

We did it a bit different, and now we have to adept with the rules we're facing on WWS.

Hard?
You tell me about it... I enforced the rules on EU...

But the stupid flamewars some of you took in on the merge, could've bloody died with the EU server. Why are you destroying the game for the rest of us? Like the stupid thread I read about /remove today. Makes me sick to admit I'm from the same side of the pond.

[Jump]

Do I need to read this whole thread and do some moderating? Or are you adults getting along?

[Supermax]

Whatever the actual rules are, those enforcing them ought to exhibit fairness, transparency and common sense (or at least reasonable approximations thereof). If an individual GM or the GM team fail to do so, he/they should be replaced ASAP.

[Istanbul]

It's at least been more or less respectful (to each other) in here, or i'd have probably mentioned something to ya already. ^.^

[Honkwomp]

I have been lurking and normally would continue, but this subject is near and dear to me.

Gm's should investigate whenever a player generates more than a couple of complaints. However, they should only act when they can personally confirm the player in question is disruptive to the game.

One of the biggest problems is that GM's themselves have no clue and no standards as to what "disruptive game play" is. They act in an arbitrary manner and dole out penalties in an uneven and unjust manner. However, because it is so difficult to categorize all the different ways players can cause havoc, GM's have to wing it.

Ultimately, as GM I would ask "Do the actions of this player result in potential subscription loss?"

Notice I said nothing about RP or grief. I do not care if your actions have a role playing foundation. if they are pissing people off, that is not a good thing.
Games are supposed to be fun. If you are making the game "unfun" for others, I do not care whether it is fun for you.

Originally Posted by GrimGriz

For example, with the situation that the -Cobra- account has created, when should GMs intervene?

So, when should GMs intervene, what should the intervention be? How should things work? What's y'all's opinion on the subject?

[Honkwomp]

Kermi, fun for me is watching you pod immediately after launching. If you find that unfun, don't blame me, go find another game! I just happen to define fun differently than you, that is all.

Earlier in this thread one person equated quitting to "cutting off your nose to spite your face" I define quitting as the only viable way to insure your disdain for the current design is noticed

Find another game? Your wisdom must be immeasurable in this matter. That is PRECISELY what that vast majority of anyone who ever played jumpgate has done.

Why should I pay 10 bucks a month to be pissed off by pvpers too lazy or too stupid to seek out other PVPers? Answer IS=I DIDN'T and neither did a whole lot of other people.

Proper game design should insure that fun for you does not depend on making it unfun for me. Every successful game out there is that way.

Most Civ ripping is the perfect example of breaking that rule. That part of the game seems as if it is designed into the game just so people can get pissed off. It's bad game design and needs to be removed

I think a better game design would be making civ unshootable by players, but give economic incentives for being HG. Do not decrease what a player can earn being civ, but increase the rewards for being HG. Faster mining, better yields, bonuses for commodity deliveries increased exp for missions. Money talks....