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Old 08-21-2006, 08:58 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Should you consider leaving squad please drop balrog a line, they re good game. No one is entitled to steal your fun ...
Talk about blatant flaming. How can you finish an apology post with that?

So now lets talk about Tube camping shall we? As far as I can remember I have been playing this game longer then any of you. AND tube camping the station to get an "easy" kill was looked down apon by the community as well. Now that may be your way of having fun..I dont know. but for me having two accounts is well as BloodGuns puts it "I care much for this stupid Computer Game coz it lightens up my few hours I play it and I m extracting great fun from it."




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Old 08-21-2006, 09:19 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Would you care to elaborate what you define as "tube camping" and what incident you're referring to?
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:36 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Would you care to elaborate what you define as "tube camping" and what incident you're referring to?
ROFL na I'm about done here. Have a great day.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:19 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Not sure why I'm writing this definition. I think tube camping is pretty self-explanatory, but . . .

Tube Camping = sitting in range of launch so that the launching pilot is immediately put at significant disadvantage. For BH internal RoE, we have established a minimum distance of 4k from station.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:42 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Not sure why I'm writing this definition. I think tube camping is pretty self-explanatory, but . . .

Tube Camping = sitting in range of launch so that the launching pilot is immediately put at significant disadvantage. For BH internal RoE, we have established a minimum distance of 4k from station.
We used to try and stay 10K back from the station. Thats pretty much non-existant now. I mean these guys are practiaclly inside the tube with you wating for you to launch. I guess thats how EU roles.


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Old 08-21-2006, 11:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Ignoring just about everything between post #1 and this post... I do have an honest question about your squad(s) politics: are they joint or seperate?

Since EoR has been engaging Sol loyalists alongside the other Quants, can I expect Hammer to do the same (joint politicals with all Quants) or can I expect EoR to ask for a ceasefire (joint politicals with only Hammer) or can I expect Hammer to shoot EoR (seperate politicals)?

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I think you'll find most EU pilots to be honorable and some to be not. Same as US pilots. Though you really do have to define some things...EU people were not used to our concept of station stripping and I have found them to be more liberal with missiles and sitting closer to launch tubes (though I have not had anyone shooting me while I was still immobilized in the tube). These were social guidelines, and I think most of the remaining EU pilots have adapted fairly well to the US norms. Groups that are RPing the "bad guys" seem to carry that over into gameplay a lot (like downing miners in sector claims for easy kills).

But when it comes right down to it, what is the difference between sitting 1k from a launch tube and getting an easy kill, or downing a pilot while fluxing for an easy kill, or one returning to Aman from a fluxing run, or chasing down a pilot in a 6v1 when there are 6v6's you could be off fighting?

Good luck with the new squads. I genuinely am glad you guys have returned and hope both factions are the better for it. Ultimately, we need people to have fun rather than frustration in Jumpgate if we are ever going to come out of the downward spiral of "he did X lameness to me, therefore I can do Y lameness to him." It just makes everyone lame in the end.
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:03 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Ignoring just about everything between post #1 and this post... I do have an honest question about your squad(s) politics: are they joint or seperate?

Since EoR has been engaging Sol loyalists alongside the other Quants, can I expect Hammer to do the same (joint politicals with all Quants) or can I expect EoR to ask for a ceasefire (joint politicals with only Hammer) or can I expect Hammer to shoot EoR (seperate politicals)?

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I think you'll find most EU pilots to be honorable and some to be not. Same as US pilots. Though you really do have to define some things...EU people were not used to our concept of station stripping and I have found them to be more liberal with missiles and sitting closer to launch tubes (though I have not had anyone shooting me while I was still immobilized in the tube). These were social guidelines, and I think most of the remaining EU pilots have adapted fairly well to the US norms. Groups that are RPing the "bad guys" seem to carry that over into gameplay a lot (like downing miners in sector claims for easy kills).

But when it comes right down to it, what is the difference between sitting 1k from a launch tube and getting an easy kill, or downing a pilot while fluxing for an easy kill, or one returning to Aman from a fluxing run, or chasing down a pilot in a 6v1 when there are 6v6's you could be off fighting?

Good luck with the new squads. I genuinely am glad you guys have returned and hope both factions are the better for it. Ultimately, we need people to have fun rather than frustration in Jumpgate if we are ever going to come out of the downward spiral of "he did X lameness to me, therefore I can do Y lameness to him." It just makes everyone lame in the end.
Ok first of all your post is ...well weird. So please fill me in on when EoR fiered apon a Pro Sol sqaud? That is just impossible unless OV, or Pirates are Pro SOL which I think the answer is no. So basically you have us rather confused. Or are you just trying to add to the lameness that everyone else is trying to create?

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I am in both since all I do is fight stinky Octs.

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and most importantly PvP against Pirates, Civ rippers and Octs.

I made it VERY clear who we fight. We will not stray from this unless provoked.


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Old 08-21-2006, 12:20 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Zero,

As you see I have made it VERY clear who we are here to fight. As seen in post above and the very first post.

Now if you are refering to EoR from 3 years ago then yes we fought everyone. That was three years ago hence my first post stateing out RoE's. Now if you have any other questions about whats going on then please get ahold of me via PM or in game.

Also if you and your sqaud would like to help keep Solrain blue and stocked with basic gear then please get ahold of Hurricane to work out the details. We could use all the help we can get.

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Unless I'm going crazy, EoR pilots were part of the Quant fleet of 6 that downed 1 Solidarity pilot (me) last week on my way to Amananth (I figured I would solo-flux rather than try to cherry pick the 6 Quant vs 6 Oct fight I figured was about to ensure...but the Quants flashed me down rather than go look for the Octs...which is fine since I was an HG enemy, no complaints there). In retrospect, EoR may not have shot at me, with so many shooting at me I didn't really keep track. But it looked like the standard unified Quant fleet to me. If I'm incorrect here, then consider the question hypothetical rather than specific.

What I am asking is this: if I would have had a few wingmen and we had engaged the Quant fleet as we often do, are you saying that EoR would have stayed out of the fight since we are not Octs? As Solrain factionalists, we do fight Quant factionalists in consensual PvP fairly regularly. In fact, we destroyed Quant Weapons-of-Planetary-Destruction research facilities not all that long ago. Quants regularly visit Sol space tuning beacs and sector claiming, so we do the same in kind.

When the inevitable conflict between "us" Sol factionalists and "them" Quant factionalists happens, I'm just wondering how Hammer/EoR will react. Again, sorry if my post was less than clear.
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Just curious, How will EoR deal with QH? They are generally fighting the Octs, too, but also have recently been caught pirating and have been aggressive towards other Quant factionalists (i.e. me ).
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Great thread, painful, but great.
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OK to answer everyone's questions......

1) EoR is Pro Quantar. Plain and simple. We will not engage Sol sqauds unless engaged FIRST. Meaning we will not go looking for trouble in sol space, and will request permission if needed to fly HG into Sol space to kill Octs/Pirates.

2) QH is pirating quants? If thats truly a fact then no we do not stand behind QH at all. This is Crazyness. Ambro I have never doubted your integrety but are you sure about this? If so then mayby comming back at this time wasnt that great of an idea.

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