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About This Page About This Page: This is a discussion on Production lister notes/questions within the Tool Chat forums, part of the Jump's Jumpgate Tool Shed category, at Joystick Required Forums. 1. Barraks aren't produced at Hyp any longer. Just OP. 2. Is there anyway you can include CPs? Not quite sure how you can do that without cluttering the
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Production lister notes/questions

1. Barraks aren't produced at Hyp any longer. Just OP.

2. Is there anyway you can include CPs? Not quite sure how you can do that without cluttering the list too badly, but it would come in handy to be able to see the ingredients of the Sabre in this tool for example and know that the CP is in the Wake sector.

3. Is it possible to show which items out currently out of production? For example, IJs aren't being produced. Any way of showing this? If this information could be updated via a form or some other interface, I would volunteer to keep it updated.

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Old 02-06-2006, 08:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Joe, wasn't the Sabre CP destroyed?
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Old 02-06-2006, 09:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Joe, wasn't the Sabre CP destroyed?
Thanks Grim, you helped make my point Yes, it was destroyed but there is no way that anyone would know this. Also, it will be re-built someday so when it's back online, there should be an easy way of changing it's status.

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Old 02-06-2006, 09:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The thing you learn when you have been working with JOSSH/Jumpgate data as long as I have is this. If it's not published and live data then it's just too hard to keep up with. That's most of the reason I hate CP's and such. It all has to be hand researched and hard coded and then Istvan makes changes at will with no announcement, or GM's do an event and alter the universe. There is just no way to keep up with it without it being live data on JOSSH.

You have probably seen countless posts of mine asking people to help with research. Most ignore them, some have made valiant efforts, but they to fade away. The fact is, it's just too much work, and to much stress trying to figure it out and re-figure it out.

It's mind boggling how they went 80% of the way with the live data and stoped. Sad really.
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, I can live with that Thanks
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So basically what's needed is a way to download stuff from JOSSH, then the possibility to add more or less temporary changes, so that the live tool first reads the screen scraped JOSSH data, then updates with the handcoded discrepancies, and finally has a somewhat more useful picture to present.

I really hate it when JOSSH says "Various" for production centers, like for Drop Tanks... but with something like I described above, we could get 98% right from JOSSH and then try to keep up with the changes along the way. Just need to figure a way for more than one person to do the temporary updates.
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Been there, done that. Too much work, to many unpublished changes too frequently. Good luck though

You forgot the part about having to have an entirely different code set for CP's and such since they have no inventory data so are totally unrelated to the other stations you might be displaying.
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For CPs, I like to list the stock of the required equipment in the station sector (if in one). For a CP in a non-station sector, I see what you mean.

Why on earth can't ND sort JOSSH, at least do an update when a pilot highlights a mistake?
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Either correcting mistakes isn't important to those who run the game or they lack the resources to do so.
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Well, they have never even finished updating JOSSH over to JAVA when the windows JAVA thing went down.

The biggest mistake ND EVER MADE when it comes to JOSSH.

NOT using JAVA for the back end only and NOT using php/mysql for the front end. That thing must be a nightmare to maintain or update. We all know it's the slowest thing on the net. Instead of JOSSH they should call it SLOTH.

But, that's neither here nor there I guess.


Whatever happened to "homeboy" anyway. One day he was working on the JOSSH updates, the next day he was gone. Where are you Josh?

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