Jumpgate and Vista

Milkman

Well... no luck last night either... in fact jumpgate won't launch now. :P

So.. im restoring the system back to fresh install state and i shall try some more. However its not looking good... i think there will be some need for netdevil network coding changes.

-Heros-

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Originally Posted by Mr.Grim

ok still no luck for me, i tried to install windows xp but when i do it tells me my setup is not compatible.i have been doin some searchin and basically what it says is my system came with dx9 and dx10 on it, i was also told that the developer of "games" will be the ones who have to fix "issues" with these type of problems by writing some kind of code :/ so i guess i bought a f'n $800 dollar paper weight

Install XP on another hard drive, before you install XP make sure that the Vista hard drive is inactive.

After that you choose over the Bios-Bootmenu the hard drive from who you getting start the OS (mostly F8)

I have Vista too and the same problems, log in works but no launch.

Sorry for my bad english but I hope you understand what I wrote *g*

Radi

hmmm must be issues with a pc. I'm messing around with Vista and installed Jumpgate. So far no problems, I can even launch into offline sim. If anyone can provide me with an account, I can try it online.

Reece

The problem isn't the install or the sim, it's the actual playing, try making a 10-day

Radi

Well apparently, I can't play either.

Veloxi

It's funny. I stopped playing games for a while, so for me, Vista was fine. When I started to play again...Vista would only run 30% or less of the games I installed. Microsoft's own Freelancer refused to run. This convinced me to remove Vista and go back to XP. Now everything runs swimmingly.

ELPIRATA

FYI I tried using running Jumpgate in Linux via wine, but it didnt work

It was funny cause the installer was able to create a shortcut on the desktop. Im still pending to try it with cedega instead of wine.

BTW, I read somewhere that Vista doesnt use directsound anymore, and that only users that run x-fi cards might be able to play old games in vista. AC'97 (built'ins) and other sound blaster cards (older of course) may work in terms of providing sound in Vista, but won't originate sounds from those old games.

Also, I read somewhere that there was a patch for sound blaster cards, something Alchemy, that would convert those old directsound games to the new sound system/software that Vista uses.

ELP

PS: Great skin Jump

I LOVE IT.

Elmdor

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Milkman

Well.. i have given up on trying to get this to work. I think the problem lies in Direct3D Retained Mode being dropped from Vista. Even placing and manually registering the directX files from my XP machine won't get this running. Other posibilitys is the NAT helper being removed... which could cause network errors when using NAT.. although i dont' think that is the case as i gave my machine a public IP and that didnt' seem to help. Plus the fact that you can join and chat kind of points away from that. But they couldhave used different network code for chat vs space.

I was going to suggest and try the wine thing... but since that has already been tried.... i got nothing left.

I think jumpgate will have to fix this... or someone on the net will have to come up with a way to make a port or wrapper for the old DX functions that have been dropped.

So... all in all... not a good thing here.... Because if they choose not to patch this... well... thats the end. No new people and as people convert to Vista because of needs( ie directX 10 games), away will drop the rest of the playerbase.

Radi

I think that they realized this before the "upgrade" news. They knew that they would have to re-write some of the code (more like bunch of it) cuz of Vista. The only question remaining is: when is it going to be out?

Reece

and will the rewrite screw xp

Radi

I would think that would want to make sure that new code works on XP and Vista. Pure marketing. More people = more $$$.

Milkman

Any rewrite they make would likely be using the new PC/Xbox unified code introduced in DX9??? and used in DX10. So... is should still work in XP.

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	Milkman Moderator Pilot Name: Milkman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 303	Well... no luck last night either... in fact jumpgate won't launch now. :P So.. im restoring the system back to fresh install state and i shall try some more. However its not looking good... i think there will be some need for netdevil network coding changes.
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	Radi Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 616	hmmm must be issues with a pc. I'm messing around with Vista and installed Jumpgate. So far no problems, I can even launch into offline sim. If anyone can provide me with an account, I can try it online.


	Reece Member Pilot Name: Reece Joystick: Saitek X52 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Solrain Core Posts: 174	The problem isn't the install or the sim, it's the actual playing, try making a 10-day
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	Veloxi Member Pilot Name: Veloxi Faction: Quantar Joystick: Saitek X-52 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 134	It's funny. I stopped playing games for a while, so for me, Vista was fine. When I started to play again...Vista would only run 30% or less of the games I installed. Microsoft's own Freelancer refused to run. This convinced me to remove Vista and go back to XP. Now everything runs swimmingly.


	ELPIRATA Moderator Pilot Name: ELPIRATA Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek X45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 1,420	FYI I tried using running Jumpgate in Linux via wine, but it didnt work It was funny cause the installer was able to create a shortcut on the desktop. Im still pending to try it with cedega instead of wine. BTW, I read somewhere that Vista doesnt use directsound anymore, and that only users that run x-fi cards might be able to play old games in vista. AC'97 (built'ins) and other sound blaster cards (older of course) may work in terms of providing sound in Vista, but won't originate sounds from those old games. Also, I read somewhere that there was a patch for sound blaster cards, something Alchemy, that would convert those old directsound games to the new sound system/software that Vista uses. ELP PS: Great skin Jump I LOVE IT.


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