[ZeroZ95]

I'm sure Reece is sick of my week-late commentary (go DVR go!), but it just wouldn't be the same w/o this thread.

Originally Posted by Reece

So, who else is glad Xena is gone?

Apollo needs to quit doing his wife so dirty, and starbuck needs to do a playboy shoot.

I can't believe Sharon died, got the baby, and came back to Galactica all in one episode.

It's a shame about Kat, she had some depth. I like that in my characters. Oooh, speaking of liking characters, I loved the way Chief responded to that 'do you ever wonder' crap Apollo was spouting at the bar. I'm not real excited about the next episode, I don't like it when the old apollo is around most times. I also hope Baltar survives this whole ordeal, he's definitely one of my top 3 favorite characters.

Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

I actually like Lucy on BSG (never saw Xena), she's pretty hot as a dirty blonde.

Apollo needs to go back to being the clean cut hero we knew in the beginning instead of the fat cheating bastard of a drunk he's recently become....as if we didn't already have enough drunks with Starbuck and Tigh. Wonder how long we have to wait before they reveal the other 5...especially the one that Lucy apologized to.

Can't believe Sharon's baby rescue was done in 1 episode either, but I'm glad. They tend to drag things out a lot, so this was a pleasant surprise.

IMO, Starbuck is soooo not hot. Playboy might do it for the shock value of celeb boobies, but she's about as non-good looking as they come.

I didn't care for Kat who was a druggie noob that suddenly overtook Starbuck as the top ace because she was able to kill a motionless Scar who was being towed like a freaking conflux by Starbuck who did all the heavy lifting on the kill. Just more evidence that judging things by the killshot is generally dumb.

The Chief's bar scene was cool. He's a good character except when they had him freak out for that 1 episode...but that at least introduced us to the chaplain which set up one of the funniest moments in the series. When the Quantum Leap cylon is yelling "But I'm not a cylon!" as they drag him into the brig where he sees a copy of himself and shrugs "Oh, right."

I actually enjoy seeing classic Apollo in the new one (especially since he worked so hard for so many years to revive Galactica), and I generally like his new character. I'm glad they didn't try to make him some vet/hero from the last cylon war. At least as space-man-Nelson-Mandella he's got some depth.

Baltar's survival is a lock, IMO. He's one of the principals that the series could not survive losing for long. Dunno what all the identiy crisis fuss is about though. All he needs to do is use his own cylon detector on himself. I'm sure Adama would like to know and would let him do it.

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Originally Posted by Reece

I was very pleased to see a helo-centric episode for a change. He's always been one of my favorite characters. So is baltar, so I think anyone that bones cylons becomes one of my favorite characters....

I had also completely forgotten about the six that had baltar in her head, and was glad to be reminded as to me that's one of the more interesting subplots. All in all I was very pleased with the episode because it was mainly a character piece, and those are my favorite.

Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

Eh, talking-heads episodes are OK. But nothing can compete with jumping a capship into the atmosphere and having it sink like a stone while it launches fighters. That was just boss.

BTW, it must really suck for that X-Men Senator guy to be typecast as a biggot for sci-fi. There's just not that many job openings...

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Originally Posted by Reece

Tonight's episode was another perfect example of why I love this show. I know of no other show on tv that asks hard questions about humanity.

Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

Babylon 5 had a couple of worker/strike episodes 10 years ago...nothing as gritty as BSG though. Certainly the various Treks took a (probably intentional) overly pristine view of humanity. BSG has the luxury of the apocolyptic scenario to assist in social commentary, sort of like a pressure cooker for the last few humans to try to survive in.

What I think BSG is really missing is continuity of some of the tough issues. For example, we haven't seen or heard anything of the black market since that one episode. Hopefully the union won't just disappear from the storyline the same way. Likewise, the cast is so large that it takes quite a long time to revisit everyone who is interesting (which is both a blessing and cursing).

Good show though. I really liked the opening sequence with the out of control Raptor drifting right at Colonial One...a classic "oh crap" moment.

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Originally Posted by Reece

Starbuck had better be a gods dammed cylon!

Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

So you think when they find Baltar guilty and toss him out the airlock that maybe he'll wake up naked in the kiddie pool, looking up at Starbuck? Dunno, Starbuck=cylon feels a little too predictable for a BSG plotline. For instance, Starbuck=dead was about the farthest thing from my mind right up to the point where she actually bought it (so pointlessly and without fanfare especially).

Reminds me of Tasha Yar on STNG. I think the actress must have asked for too much money or pissed off the wrong person.

Originally Posted by Reece

I don't care if it's predictable or not. If she asked for too much money they should have given it to her. If this season ends and I don't see her again, I'll be much less likely to watch the next season. She's my favorite.

I also don't think they'll find Baltar guilty, or at least that he'll die/be a cylon. I think they enjoy the 'is he a cylon' bit, plus it'd be too tidy around the fleet.

Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

I agree. It would not surprise me in the least to see Starbuck again as a Cylon, or for the whole episode to have been a dream (though that would be supreme cheese). Nor do I really think they'll ever get rid of Baltar either. I never really saw the basis behind his imaginary Six's statement that he was not a Cylon. And they really need to do more with the real Six's imaginary Baltar. He's fun.

Originally Posted by Reece

I saw the basis behind his imaginary six's statement. Even if he is actually a cylon (which I am leaning towards, particularly now that they've tried to convince us he is not) his visions/her saying that are because it is his path to believe he's human atm.

The main reason I have hope that starbuck be a cylon is because of the cylon leading her towards death. I suppose it could be some evil new weapon perhaps, but the psychic quoting the cylon was creepy

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Originally Posted by ZeroZ95

Finally got a chance to watch the lawyer episode last night. Though the lawyer himself was sort of interesting, there was just way too much rediculous crap going on for me to enjoy it.

So the deck guy is able to do precision explosives as to not harm Racetrack and to wire that keypad, yet he'll blow up a whole raptor full of friends and anyone nearby just to off a lawyer who'll get replaced?

They were saved by a cat? Puhlease, Mr. Cheese. As if we all didn't make a mental note of "lame plot device" the first time the cat jumped on the desk.

At least they pegged trial lawyers correctly: lying, cheating, thieving, mentally disturbed glory hounds.

Originally Posted by Reece

I guess I'm not so picky, I liked it. It was also good to see a cat. Sure the cat causing the bomb to be found was cheesy, but the seen with the lawyer and six was awesome enough to make up for it to me. If they're gonna have powerful scenes like that, they're allowed to have some cheese.

I missed starbuck though.

[Reece]

I wasn't really a big fan of this episode. As usual there were parts I loved, but this time there were parts I was terribly disappointed in.

With the commercials for the next episode that aired during the episode, there seemed to be the implication that the drunken colonel, starbuck's hubby, and the presidents aide were all cylons. That's fine. The music thing...kinda lame.

Of course, I always love a six with a mental baltar scene, so that was great.

I thought Dee leaving Apollo was terribly terribly underplayed. Though I like where they are taking Helo.

I dunno, I guess the main reason I was disappointed in this episode is because it was so Apollo centric, and I haven't really been interested in him since he recovered from wanting to die.

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[ZeroZ95]

Yeah, as I've said before, I really dislike what they've done to Apollo this whole season. I think the love-you/hate-you seesaw between the Adamas is pretty trite.

Eh, "I'm a Cylon" in a commercial spot is almost a sure sign they aren't. Its plausible that a few humans can have good hearing w/o being toasters.

The music thing was odd, but I'll wait to see where it goes. There was an episode of classic BSG where they picked up broadcasts from Earth (just as they left the room...that specific sensor dome was in an abandoned technology/part of the ship, the ship being over 500 years old, the war having gone on for 1000 years). Anyway, I kept expecting the music to get loud/clear enough to recognize it from an early Earth broadcast or something. Sort of like the Hitler TV broadcast in Contact.

[Radi]

Ever since, the season 3 started, BSG lost something. After a while all those small crises get boring. I'm like "what is it this time".

Search for earth did spike my intrest but only for a short while.

[vorlon31]

bsg rocks, not enough space fight scenes imo 3rd series (so far).

I see theres an official game in the pipeline, as well as the unofficial ( Beyond the Red Line ).

BSG would make a great mmo. New sectors of space each week as you get taken along by bsg or a cylon fleet ship during their voyages of destruction. Launch - fight - get back to base before it goes boom of jumps to light speed leaving you behind for a character death alone in the depths of space - unless you know where they jumped to and have a ftl drive yourself... nice and good for the ticker

[Radi]

Well, I have just watched the final episode for season 3 and I have to say I'm disappointed.

For me, it seams like a deja vu. 3rd season of Enterprise sucked, and when the 4th seamed that it was going good, show got canceled. I have the same feeling for 3rd season of BSG.

I would save getting to Earth for the finale of the show. I cannot help to think that this will be culmination of season 4 and the end of the show.

Plus some of the stuff: „the final five”, return of Starbuck etc.

[Reece]

It was sheer and utter crap, even if Starbuck came back. Thorough disappointment....but the greatness couldn't go on forever I guess. Not only that crap, but they also want us to wait til 2008 for a new episode...battlewhat?

[Ambrosius]

I think Starbuck will come back as a guy (played by Dirk Benedict).

[ZeroZ95]

A) I'm pretty sure Starbuck's ship at death was a new viper. She's in an old viper now. Not sure what that means.

B) When did they move the show to Sundays? Not that it matters since I can't watch it until midweek anyway.

C) Caprica 6 has mental wierdness (Baltar in her head + connection with Athena and the President).

D) Baltar has mental wierdness (Caprica 6 in his head)

E) Various seers have displayed mental wierdness.

F) The President has mental wierdness (Kobal visions, etc)

G) The musical 4 of this episode have mental wierdness going on.

H) There's still plenty of room for the musical 4 to be non-Cylons and for Apollo to be experiencing mental wierdness (and thus for Starbuck to still be dead and not a Cylon). So we really still don't know if they are the final 5 or not.

I) I was right about it being a broadcast from Earth. But they really butchered Hendrix.

J) I enjoyed the trial including the outcome and rest of the episode. "We're not a civilization, we're a gang. On the run."

K) I'm glad they didn't use the trial's outcome as the season cliffhanger. That would have been supremely lame.

L) Starbuck (Cylon or not) couldn't have been to Earth. They can never reach Earth with the Cylons still alive since Earth would be toast (assuming the BSG storyline is set in modern times like the classic BSG was). Not to mention the underlying storyarc of the whole show would be fulfilled. And they'd have to get some cheezeball flying motorcycles so they'd be inconspicuous while on Earth.

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