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Old 11-04-2007, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking about the fact that we're going to be able to have multiple characters in one account. I fear about the problems this will create and I know it has nice things in favor too, so basically I would suggest that the choice of all this characters have to be the same faction as the first one created.

This would allow folks to have different roles on different characters but at the same time it would limit the probabilities of having spies on other squads. If you can join squads of your same faction, you will be able to do almost anything but join the enemy.

I realize that it would be a beatiful thing to have the best of each faction on each character, but this leads to problems eventually with all the 2nd accounts and so forth.

I would even go as far as have a distintive mark (seen only on pilot roster) indicating which is the first acount created, just a simple medal that you can know that is the first character created, have the others not sport that and you have no clue on who that guy/girl is. This would also help folks that dont want guys/girls joining with 2nd accounts (as I've did in the past), specially from other factions.

Jumpgate has been, at least for me, about trust. Knowing who is in the other end. Eventually, you get to know about them 2nd accounts they have, but at least you know.

I guess my biggest concent about this is the 'spy' factor and the ability to use my quant character to feed data to my oct buddies about their movements. Right now, folks who do it face serious consequences if spotted or the fact is known, and with Alternate accounts... no big deal, just change to another account in the same faction as them and u'll be fine because they wont know.

Anyways, that's how I feel...

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Old 11-04-2007, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

It wouldn't be unheard of. Unless things have changed you can't make a horde and alliance char on the same pvp server of WoW.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

Cant remember which new game it is but in one of them you have multiple characters but each one shares the Surname given for your first character.

You have a link then to all accounts owned by a person and if "Aardmann Prickwad" plays the twonk, you know you can shoot the hell out of "yellowbelly Prickwadd" and you'll be exacting revenge on the right person - if only through the family extension of the Aardmann character.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

Hmmm...

People will still have the choice to purchase another account to be able to have accounts in two factions. So that will still be a problem.

I'm trying to think of why ND decided to allow people to have multiple accounts on the same paid subscription. The whole "everyone else is doing it" comment they made just irks me. I really wish they would take this decision and think it through, because there are a lot of problems I see with the idea.

As far as locking them down to the same faction, I like the idea, but like I said, there will always be people willing to pay to be able to spy on the other factions.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, if they do it then I hope that they are all viewable on a players page. Have each character in a tab so there are no secrets. And of course they could have a lineage tag to link to our old accounts on JOSSH as well. Still, it seems like it will cause problems.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

Why should you be afraid of spy accounts? Honestly you do not need a spy account in Jumpgate Classic to know as much as you want about your enemy squad. Important squad POS you will find out very fast, who leads during combat is very easy to see squad tactics are known after the second time they use it.

I see more of a problem in other uses of a 2. account. Need someone to support your badass pirate? Get your second account tow free of charge!

Now my "dream" solution:
Players want to do different things? That's great! Let them do everything they want, with 3 accounts, on 3 servers! Put one into US, put one into EU and the last one wherever you want (asia? let ND decide). So you get good ping for everyone, different servers for everyone to try different roles and you do not limit the EU guys to EU or the US to US... sound like win for me...
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

I think the same-faction concept is the best. While it might be nice to have a char on each faction, it doesnt make sense RP wise. At least with having the ability of making new same faction chars, you can specialize your setups for quick switching from hauler to fighter, etc. That, and the fact you don't have to wipe your current char just because you get bored and want to lvl again.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well, if they do it then I hope that they are all viewable on a players page. Have each character in a tab so there are no secrets. And of course they could have a lineage tag to link to our old accounts on JOSSH as well. Still, it seems like it will cause problems.

I think is a must, if there are to be multiple accounts, they have to be linked in some way or another to avoid people hiding behind them


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Why should you be afraid of spy accounts? Honestly you do not need a spy account in Jumpgate Classic to know as much as you want about your enemy squad. Important squad POS you will find out very fast, who leads during combat is very easy to see squad tactics are known after the second time they use it.

I see more of a problem in other uses of a 2. account. Need someone to support your badass pirate? Get your second account tow free of charge!

Now my "dream" solution:
Players want to do different things? That's great! Let them do everything they want, with 3 accounts, on 3 servers! Put one into US, put one into EU and the last one wherever you want (asia? let ND decide). So you get good ping for everyone, different servers for everyone to try different roles and you do not limit the EU guys to EU or the US to US... sound like win for me...
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You need to be "scared" of them because people will hide behind these accounts. Also people will use them to spy on squads they are at war with. When I was playing my pirate account, if I could have had another pilot join the squad im at war with and get all the vital equipment routes, I could have crippled them very easily. Instead I had to listen in on varios f5 channels and play my luck.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

@Vomir: There are other reasons aside from the spy factor. For example, I've had the privilege of being surrounded by active individuals in SR.. and as such, I want to keep that happening. People with 2 or 3 accounts have to share their time between those accounts.

Also, I dont think the multi-characters are going to be 1 for each server, if it were the case the point would be moot. And, a bit off-topic, the shard way Im not liking it one bit, well... the only good thing I see is that I wont have to deal with those I-speak-german-only folks. After being a one Jumpgate family... the thought of parting ways again...

I understand that it would be better for EU folks ping-related, but I dont like it much.

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Old 11-05-2007, 01:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

I would miss a lot of the EU folks if they were to have to go away again. I really hope that doesn't happen. I don't think mulitple characters on the same account is a good idea. If you want someone to hide behind, you should have to pay for the privledge.

Wild_Bill could never be a pirate or outlaw. No character linked to him could either, since it would all come back to that. If I want to play a bad-boy character, I should have to pay a fee and get a seperate account to do so. I doubt it will ever happen. I barely have time enough to show up in game as it is.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Alternate Characters

Even if you get the unanimous opinion of all past and present Jumpgate players, that'd only be about 1000. Whereas they make look at the 8 billion WoW people as used to having multiple characters. Jumpgate Evolution is obviously going to be a very different game.

Out of curiosity, does an EVE account allow multiple characters?
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes, far as I remember was either 2 or 3. But in the EVE universe, with the thousands playing... there's no sense of community no way to really know people....
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