FlashFires

Eraser55

I love FF

alphabet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eraser55

I love FF

For some reason this came to mind... LOL

Karash

But I Wuv de Kookie

Radi

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabet

There better be a better missle defense system than a PWD if you are going to get rid of FFs.

I would be interested in what the fluxing community thinks of this idea. Getting dumped on sucks, it would really, really suck if you couldnt flee from flux faster than your ride.

@missiles

Good point.
@flux

Flux is getting re-designed and if I listened to the interview corretly, dumping will be thing of a past.

ventura

If you eliminate ffs, then ABs must be faster on the slower ships of the same class. Then there is no sure escape from the slower factions fighter.

Ambrosius

I would not mind seeing FFs go away. But if they are kept they should have more drawbacks. For example:

- weight
- expense
- damage to engine (if equipment dmg is brought in)
- . . . etc.

Dedsquirrl

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Originally Posted by Ambrosius

I would not mind seeing FFs go away. But if they are kept they should have more drawbacks. For example:

- weight
- expense
- damage to engine (if equipment dmg is brought in)
- . . . etc.

I would love to see the damage added to FF's.
Even if they wanted to keep it simple you could just add slight damage to the armor to represent the structural strain of accelerating the ship past specs.

I always liked FF's (even though I often died with them in the racks).
They could really prolong a fight, which I always thought was a good thing.

SingleShot

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Originally Posted by Radi

Engaging in a fight is a commitement. Once you do it, you cannot turn back. You either win or loose. Ship tactics now become even more important. And you do not even have to be in a MF or LF to rock. It take a little bit to get away from range of guns with the speed that current ships have.

I disagree. I see FFs as a way for light ships to kill heavy ships when that would otherwise not be possible, as well as a way for heavy ships to kill light ships...when that would also otherwise not be possible. I think this core mechanic of a limited resource that can tip a fight is a good thing.

How would it be possible, for example, to kill someone flying around in a Peri without FFs?

The fact that current fights in Jumpgate are never more than FF distance away from a POS (which does make fights very lame) is, I think, another issue.

I like what Karash is talking about. I was never a fan of the FF that went away, just because it was such a drag on a good fight. But with POS the way they are I can totally see how rechargable FFs would be insanity. *shrug*

Radi

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Originally Posted by SingleShot

I disagree. I see FFs as a way for light ships to kill heavy ships when that would otherwise not be possible, as well as a way for heavy ships to kill light ships...when that would also otherwise not be possible.

That is my point. Light ships should not be able to take head on heavier ships. It should take more skills than FF whoring.

This should bring that variaty to the fleets that have been talked about for a long time.

@peri

Maybe this is why you need scouts in your own fleet, too.

Just try to fight in sim w.o flashfires and see how that feels.

alphabet

They should stay in the game because...

a) they're fun
b) they're fun
c) they're fun

Its the type of "lets make it a realistic economy, work, sweat and bleed for 10 hours to fight for 1, death should mean something mentality" that has killed all fun in this game.

You dont like FFs, well dont use them. But dont take something fun out of the game because you think it should be that way. We tried it once your way with EP2 and see where that got us. How about we leave the fun stuff in this time, mmkay?

Elmdor

Flashfires add needed depth to combat. Like making non nix/nado/dragon ships actually flyable.

Ikeprof

Had FF's never existed this discussion would be moot.

The one attempt at removing them was met with high resistance due to having experienced flight with them.

Had we never had that experience, we wouldn't even complain nor consider the possibility of "what if there was an addon device that could give me added thrust at a whim.

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	Eraser55 Member Pilot Name: Eraser55 Faction: Hyperial Joystick: I hate Tigerwoods Join Date: May 2005 Location: HP SUxland.. Posts: 813 Nominated 2 Times in 2 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2	Re: FlashFires I love FF
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	Karash Member Pilot Name: Karash Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek x52 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eve Online Posts: 396 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: FlashFires But I Wuv de Kookie


	ventura Recruit Pilot Name: ventura Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 22 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: FlashFires If you eliminate ffs, then ABs must be faster on the slower ships of the same class. Then there is no sure escape from the slower factions fighter.


	Ambrosius Member Pilot Name: Ambrosius Faction: Quantar Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Stone Temple Posts: 1,879 Nominated 4 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3	Re: FlashFires I would not mind seeing FFs go away. But if they are kept they should have more drawbacks. For example: - weight - expense - damage to engine (if equipment dmg is brought in) - . . . etc.


	alphabet Member Pilot Name: alphabet Joystick: Saitek X52 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 191 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: FlashFires They should stay in the game because... a) they're fun b) they're fun c) they're fun Its the type of "lets make it a realistic economy, work, sweat and bleed for 10 hours to fight for 1, death should mean something mentality" that has killed all fun in this game. You dont like FFs, well dont use them. But dont take something fun out of the game because you think it should be that way. We tried it once your way with EP2 and see where that got us. How about we leave the fun stuff in this time, mmkay?


	Elmdor Member Pilot Name: Elmdor Faction: Quantar Joystick: Microsoft FF2 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 279 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: FlashFires Flashfires add needed depth to combat. Like making non nix/nado/dragon ships actually flyable.
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	Ikeprof Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 84 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: FlashFires Had FF's never existed this discussion would be moot. The one attempt at removing them was met with high resistance due to having experienced flight with them. Had we never had that experience, we wouldn't even complain nor consider the possibility of "what if there was an addon device that could give me added thrust at a whim.