[alphabet]

Multi-faction squads are evil-doers and should receive a perma ban!





...okay.. I cant back that up.

[Dedsquirrl]

I don't know.
In some respects I like the idea of hiding the names for many of the reasons listed.

But one of the things about Jumpgate that was so fun was the notoriety that individual players could achieve.
There was nothing more fun as a noob than seeing Chlorman's name pop up on global chat getting bounties and then actually seeing Chlorman flying around in Hyperial space while you were in a crappy Phaeton trying to do missions to Quant space.

Granted, I am looking at everything from a PvP standpoint.
And from a PvP standpoint I loved being able to see everyone's name.
Not because you could target specific pilots, but because it gave a sense of comraderie amongst the pilots who nightly squared off against each other.

You really get to know your other pilots when their name isn't hidden.
And that was a major strength of Jumpgate IMO.

[Eraser55]

and if I was a bounty hunter.. and was looking for a pilot i would be just shooting everyone until I killed that pilot with bounty?

Im talking about private bounties set by other players..

But! Wouldn't it be great if it didn't show on a website Who is MT/Civ or Pirate??? If Jumpgate Evolution is still going to have tag system of course. I would like this to be removed. I mean, why would your enemy know how many Pilots you have ready for action, or how many pirates are flying.

[Sephiroth]

I agree Dedsquirrl. And Karash, what about when you are flying with people of a different squad that happens frequently in Jumpgate. How will you know who is who? How will you be able to respond for a call for help? You eliminate some of the teamwork aspect of the game with these rules.

[Ikeprof]

First of all, why would I need help with a...ok...anyhow


I was going to work a version of this into my rather long and unfinished post regarding beacons..Which I think I will do now rather than hijack this thread.

I like the idea in a number of respects though.

[Karash]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I agree Dedsquirrl. And Karash, what about when you are flying with people of a different squad that happens frequently in Jumpgate. How will you know who is who? How will you be able to respond for a call for help? You eliminate some of the teamwork aspect of the game with these rules.

Thats what I am saying about a switch the player controls. There are many ways to fix any problem that arises from this system. If players want to show their ID to people in general, they can flip it to public. If they want to show their ID to someone specific, they can do a /showID PlayerX. If its multiple players outside of the squadron it can be /showID C:\players.txt

Or you can have a cool GUI for it.

[Algore]

So as a wingleader how would you suggest leading a wing if you cannot name the target?
"Guys get him over there, no get him, no get him, no get him, no get him"
Or
"Get thet guy on my six(5 guys on my six all at 2.5k)"
Or
"Get the Lvl 26 in the Nix(several lvl 26 Nix 2.5k from my ass)

Don't get me wrong, I'd love people not to know who I was to give me the advantage. But this seems like a badly thought out idea. Sorry, this is a badly thought out idea.

It's not as much fun getting assfooked the second one jumps into sector, but learn how to deal with it. This to me just seems like a /win button, at least in my case it would be.

Like someone said above also this is a MMO. Take away a name, what have you got?

Regards
Al

[alphabet]

I started off thinking this was a great idea... now im not so sure.

However, in wwiiol we use combat comes like:

• Three contacts 12 o' clock, ill take the high one, Al you take the one to the right.
• Al, 109 looking at you... 109 on your six, break, break.

But in that game you really on have two dimensions of travel. There is no inverted in Jumpgate because there is no up and down in space. So something at my 3 o' clock might be totally different to my squadmate.

Yeah, Im thinking this wouldnt work for tactical reasons.

[Algore]

The guys I currently fly with I believe to be some of the best that have played, although they do frequently, even they can't read my mind that well

[Ikeprof]

Originally Posted by alphabet

I started off thinking this was a great idea... now im not so sure.

However, in wwiiol we use combat comes like:

• Three contacts 12 o' clock, ill take the high one, Al you take the one to the right.
• Al, 109 looking at you... 109 on your six, break, break.

But in that game you really on have two dimensions of travel. There is no inverted in Jumpgate because there is no up and down in space. So something at my 3 o' clock might be totally different to my squadmate.

Yeah, Im thinking this wouldnt work for tactical reasons.

Not sure how many of you played Tribes (I actually didn't) but my understanding was that "somehow" a leader was designated. This leader had the means by the use of some form of interface to select members of his squad and designate targets/objectives for them. With names hidden, target selection would be more geared towards ship class I suspect.

I wrote about it in my fictional post, but for example, if Karash is leading a flight of us into a combat sector, the enemy is 20k out. He could by use of a mouse click on a member of his squad, target an enemy ship and hit the letter "a" to assign it to that squad member. He could assign multiple squad members to the same target very quickly or have hot-keys with simple generic objectives (PWD missle duty, "runner" intercept etc).

Though there are a dozen dozen areas of potential improvement, the tactical combat interface area is one that would go a long way towards some of our playstyles.

How to handle the "designation" of a leader etc is of course some of the challenges (LMAO "LFG for Solrain ship destruction pst")

[Karash]

A button designated to set primary and secondary targets could be implimented easy. Wing Leader has someone targeted, push the "Broadcast: Target" button you have mapped up and everyone gets a bullseye on their overview/HUD on that ship. If he queues it up multiple times the 'bullseye' icon gets a 1, 2, 3, etc..

There are many tactical commands on vox you can give when fighting within a fleet: "Concentrate on the MFs first, then go for the LFs"...or "Kill the Condor, its set up with ECM"....or "Stick with your wingman, let him designate your target"...etc.

There would obviously be needed targeting upgrades and CIC stuff put in Jumpgate Evolution to make this work. This idea would not work in Jumpgate Classic.

As far as losing the name in relation to MMOs, I really dont have an opinion on that and unconcerned. However, I do see the point and people want to be view as infamous when entering a sector, etc...just never really thought of that angle before.

[Tritian]

as someone who is often ganked immediately, i'd love the ability to hide my name. however, the reason Jumpgate is so great is because we all have our reputations we can build, and hiding our name would hinder our reputation building abilities.

perhaps an ecm you could buy to replace your name with a fake alias of your choosing so the enemy could still reference you. You're alias would show up perhaps in a different font color to indicate it's an alias and not the fighters real name. this would prevent people from impersonating others.