How to make Cap Ships work

Tritian

OK, first off... i'm opposed to player-controlled capships. I don't see how it'd work in Jumpgate, and it'd be tough to balance.

However, I'm not opposed to their being Capital Ships in Jumpgate. I like the idea of seeing giant behemoth ships hovering off in the distance, with flak ammo guns firing in all directions. But there needs to be rules.

Here is what I envision.

1) A GM controlled ship, and only ONE per faction.
2) It doesn't use the Jumpgates, but forms it's own anomoly and jumps itself to any sector. The jump drive would require 1 hour recharge time, so the GM's should decide carefully where it should be deployed.
3) It doesn't have shields, but tons of armor. It'd be virtually impervious to all weapons accept nukes. It can be destroyed if hit with enough nukes. If it is destroyed, it takes a faction mission to rebuild another one. If damaged, it'd be required for pilots to repair it w/ repair beams.
4) It's armed with AI ammo turrets. Maybe mortars for their splash damage.
5) It functions similar to repair buildings, where you can fly inside a tube and it will latch on to you and repair/refuel/rearm you. There should be no way to /home out of it, and no way to safely dock inside of it.

Thoughts?

daslog

I think the peeps that are pro cap ship want to fly it themselves.

Ambrosius

Dunno about the GM-controlled thing. I could see it as an AI, though.

Radi

Quote:

Originally Posted by daslog

I think the peeps that are pro cap ship want to fly it themselves.

I would. But "piloting" would only be a word. More like navy simulator.

dahalb

Sounds good to me if they are AI or GM controlled. My preference would be that are are AI controlled with override capability for the GM's.

Lordopic

like it, bar the GM- controlled bit, much rather it be AI and why only one?

netburnr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordopic

why only one?

For balancing reasons.

Lordopic

Quote:

Originally Posted by netburnrol

For balancing reasons.

then why not 2 or 3 or 36?

dailatron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordopic

then why not 2 or 3 or 36?

Because.

Injustice

Every fleet has a flagship...

daslog

What does a Cap Ship in Jumpgate actually do?

Everyone seems to skip this part. I read a lot of "WE WANT CAP SHIPS", but no one ever says what they would actually do with them.

netburnr

Well, they would sit there. And look pretty.

TRI Pilots On Duty
On Duty:	15
In Flight:	4
Solrain:	1
Octavius:	10
Quantar:	4
TRI:	0

Category	Pilot	Score
Kills	Algore	2,837
Kill Ratio*	_KROM_	470.000 %
Bounty Collected	Killntime	407,838,097
Munitions Accuracy*	Psycho	85.893 %
Projectile Accuracy*	_Zora_	98.148 %
Total Conflux Kills	vorlon31	149,579
Experience	-JPR-	1,002,662,560
Mission Success Ratio*	Arkady	100 %
Insurance Rating*	Farve	10 %
Net Worth	McPlowed	c21,994,151,286
Duty Hours	RedDwarf	18,927.8
*minimum requirements to qualify


	Tritian Member Pilot Name: Tritian Faction: Pirate Joystick: Mouse Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Behind you. Posts: 883 Nominated 5 Times in 2 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2	How to make Cap Ships work OK, first off... i'm opposed to player-controlled capships. I don't see how it'd work in Jumpgate, and it'd be tough to balance. However, I'm not opposed to their being Capital Ships in Jumpgate. I like the idea of seeing giant behemoth ships hovering off in the distance, with flak ammo guns firing in all directions. But there needs to be rules. Here is what I envision. 1) A GM controlled ship, and only ONE per faction. 2) It doesn't use the Jumpgates, but forms it's own anomoly and jumps itself to any sector. The jump drive would require 1 hour recharge time, so the GM's should decide carefully where it should be deployed. 3) It doesn't have shields, but tons of armor. It'd be virtually impervious to all weapons accept nukes. It can be destroyed if hit with enough nukes. If it is destroyed, it takes a faction mission to rebuild another one. If damaged, it'd be required for pilots to repair it w/ repair beams. 4) It's armed with AI ammo turrets. Maybe mortars for their splash damage. 5) It functions similar to repair buildings, where you can fly inside a tube and it will latch on to you and repair/refuel/rearm you. There should be no way to /home out of it, and no way to safely dock inside of it. Thoughts?


	daslog Member Pilot Name: daslog Joystick: sidewinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: new hampshire uber alles Posts: 353 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: How to make Cap Ships work I think the peeps that are pro cap ship want to fly it themselves.
		__________________ IMO, the above post represents the opinion of the author. No warranty is given or implied.


	Ambrosius Member Pilot Name: Ambrosius Faction: Quantar Joystick: MS FF2 Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Stone Temple Posts: 1,872 Nominated 4 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3	Re: How to make Cap Ships work Dunno about the GM-controlled thing. I could see it as an AI, though.
		__________________ Many of the things I hear about Jumpgate Evolution disappoint and concern me . . . but I look forward to beta and release to (hopefully) be proven wrong. -- Ambros.


	dahalb Member Pilot Name: dahalb Faction: Solrain Joystick: None Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oz Posts: 416 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: How to make Cap Ships work Sounds good to me if they are AI or GM controlled. My preference would be that are are AI controlled with override capability for the GM's.
		__________________ "A probable impossibility is preferable to a improbable possibility" -Aristotle "Easy to learn, Hard to master" - Unknown


	Lordopic Member Faction: non-aligned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: over the hills and far away Posts: 886 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: How to make Cap Ships work like it, bar the GM- controlled bit, much rather it be AI and why only one?


	Injustice Member Pilot Name: Injustice Faction: Pirate Joystick: Some POS Logitech because my FF2 broke Join Date: May 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 629 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: How to make Cap Ships work Every fleet has a flagship...
		__________________ Get Yours Today! "Will you call me Big Radar Southpaw like you used to?"


	daslog Member Pilot Name: daslog Joystick: sidewinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: new hampshire uber alles Posts: 353 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: How to make Cap Ships work What does a Cap Ship in Jumpgate actually do? Everyone seems to skip this part. I read a lot of "WE WANT CAP SHIPS", but no one ever says what they would actually do with them.


	netburnr I love everyone Pilot Name: netburnrol Faction: Pirate Joystick: X52 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 2,284 Nominated 3 Times in 3 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2	Re: How to make Cap Ships work Well, they would sit there. And look pretty.