[Injustice]

It recently occured to me that having instances in Jumpgate Evolution would silence a vast number of the debates we've been having about the game in general. More content (with the bonus of being easily inserted into the game environment with the minimal amount of fuss), the ability to fly and fight cap ships WITH TURRETS in a controlled environment that doesn't (or does, if you look at WoW's example with battlegrounds) impact PvP and ship balance, and most importantly, just something to do.

[Wild_Bill]

Okay, what the heck are "instances"?

[Injustice]

In most MMO's, there are areas that, when you enter them, take you to zones that aren't accessable to outside interferrence.

I tried typing a long-winded explaination, but this does the job just fine:

Instance dungeon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Wikipedia is the new Google, btw)

[ELPIRATA]

Somehow I dont like the idea, as it precludes people from affecting others while 'inside' an instance.

ELP

[Jump]

So I get an instance of flux space and can't call on anyone to come help me when I get ganked? I'm not sure that fits this type of persistent universe.

[vorlon31]

I like the instance idea for big multi-person missions. While the discussion point of

it precludes people from affecting others while 'inside' an instance

actually reads like a PLUS point to me.

Having to interrupt a group mission to deal with the latest space-sphincter who has decided to declare himself heir apparent of the lesser vacuum states just so that he can 'rp' being an annoying twinky stuffer will suck after the 3rd or 4th time around without instances.

Sure there the persistent nature of Jumpgate, but lets be honest with sharding thats been blown away, after all, which version of persistence will be the real persistence, yours, mine or the Scandinavians?*

*random entry.

[Injustice]

Originally Posted by Jump

So I get an instance of flux space and can't call on anyone to come help me when I get ganked? I'm not sure that fits this type of persistent universe.

Have either of you played WoW or another MMO that utilized instances before? It's impossible to enter an instance and get "ganked" because getting ganked implies you were attacked by another player or players. Unless one of your team mates turns on you, that is.

In WoW, the purpose of instances is to promote precision teamwork and communication between guildmates. If Jumpgate Evolution is going to include special content and anything more enticing than "take 500 units of commodity A and fly it to station B for X number of credits", then the only way to really pull that off is by using instances. Unless of course you don't mind having half the server quit from overpopulation because all of the spawns are being camped.

[Eraser55]

I agree with jump and ELP.

Its like rewarding people for leaving RS and going into Simulator.

" In WoW, the purpose of instances is to promote precision teamwork and communication between guildmates."

Maybe they need this in WoW, after playing all by my self to level 12 and then realizing I was singleplaying a MMO.. But not in Jumpgate. Jumpgate TRI is already setup for team work more then most games out on the market.

I just dont get why people would choose not to interact with most people even in ways that dont always suit them self when they beg for 10 more online players in the game they play now..

[Injustice]

Originally Posted by Eraser55

I just dont get why people would choose not to interact with most people even in ways that dont always suit them self when they beg for 10 more online players in the game they play now..

I'm proposing this for the exact reason you just stated, to promote a larger player base. If you've never played an MMO that utilized instances, then there's really no way for me to explain it to you other than to say that's it's an absolute necessity once you reach a specific server population. In the current version of Jumpgate, that number is somewhere around 300. Any larger than that, and the gameplay becomes untennable.

[Jump]

The only way I could see this is there was a mission for it. Such as go to coordinates xyz in such and such sector and you will find a temporary distortion field that will allow you to jump to lala sector. Destroy the grand pappy flux and bring back a urine sample. Then anyone that took the mission would see the gate and jump into this obstacle section. But I don't know, this isn't wow.

[sarah-mari]

just wondering but is there a reason why it could not be tried out and see how it goes....

[Tim]

Wikipedia is the devil