[GrimGriz]

I'm hoping Jumpgate Evolution comes with integrated voice. Assuming it does, I think it would be really really awesome if you could join your own squad channel, but also have a 'public comm' with which you could hail other people to open communications with them. You know, like in the Star Trek stuff, how the little dude that shows up hails the enterprise, and the captain says "on screen" and all that. However, instead of you saying "on screen" the recipient accepts the hail or not.

Maybe if you accepted the hail you could still hear squad chat, but the volume would be reduced, and you could set the amount of that reduction (because squads will be various levels of noisy). There'd probably need to be a separate PTT key for it, or your squad and the hailing guy would hear whatever you said.

[netburnr]

I almost made this same suggestion last night, until I saw it had already been posted twice.

Voice Communications

Integrated Voice Chat?

The interesting points made in the other threads were:

Originally Posted by Twinky

I'm completely against voice chat being provided in that manner. Its bad for business, ESRB ratings, and there is no real way to police it in a manner that will keep everyone happy.

The most I would want, and the best solution, is to integrate chat programs that are already available so that they can be controlled from within the game, without tabbing out or what ever. Basically I want the game to support my 3rd party software in a way that is convenient for me, my squad, and the occasionally person we would like to invite.

The problem with what I would like to have, is that the only program capable of support like this is TS2, and this could severly piss off alot of people because they insist on clinging to ventrillo.

Originally Posted by Raz

Jumpgate is a game where in combat, you CANNOT type.

With that fact in mind, voice chat would definately be a good thing. Maybe limit it to wings or squads, and maybe being able to set a chat channel you make to voice as well so you can set up meetings and such.

Originally Posted by Jump

Seems to me that there are other viable alternatives. Heck, we have a Team Speak server sitting mothballed here at Joystick Required that no one ever used.

I have never played a game that had it built in. Is the quality of sound as good as the alternatives? It used to annoy me when everyone would talk at once on TS.

Originally Posted by TexMurphy

There is a feature that Ive always "dreamed" about which is a Jumpgate/EvE/Wing Commander cross over feature.

EvE has a great face modeler.

Wing Commander has a little window on the hud that displays the character you are talking with.

Give Jumpgate EvE´s face modeler, a voice chat, the hud window and a lip synch algoritm that synchs the lips of the face with the voice chat.

Imho this would be a super neat feature that would add huge ammount of immersion to the game play.

Tex

Originally Posted by Cpt_Blood

I like the idea of voice comms. While it is true there are third-party tools that work, with an in-built system would guarantee you could communicate with any ship. If you don't want to listen to radio chatter, just turn it off.

Originally Posted by Johnny_Prime

Yes, a short hail would be fun!

I see what you mean about completely open voice chat getting chaotic. Think "Ventrilo Harassment" X 10.

JP

Originally Posted by Poseidon

Aces High has a good voice system with channels. In essence, you get 2. There is the "Radio range" with which you can talk with everyone on your side within x-distance. Then there is chan# radio where you can set it to squad, or some random channel number. Something similar would be very nice.

Originally Posted by Ambrosius

That's a very cool alternative to the Jumpgate chat box. So "radio range" is like F3 (perhaps with a 2 or 3 sector range) and the other channels are like faction, fluxing, merchant, and private channels.

Is this part of the sub or is there an additional charge in AH?

Originally Posted by TexMurphy

Best thing with built in voice chat is that it brings noobs and unsquaded pilots onto the same chat server.

Today in all games that dont have built in voice chat the squads sit on their pressious TS2 servers and dont even chat ingame. This is horrible for RvR team work.

With the ranged channel you know everyone can always hear you if you call for help (unless you have been muted ofcourse).

Tex

Originally Posted by Bingofuel

There are a few disadvantages to TS and Vent as opposed to Built in chat.

• With Vent and TS someone is paying a decent amount of money to host a server. More $$$ if they are not supplying the PC to host it on.
• For any of us to use the voice chat we have to be given permission to be on the server.
• The list goes on. basicly Each server is a privat club

Built in

• The game provider hosts the chat system and its costs are all part of the monthly fee
• The end user doesn't have to be conserned with connection details and 3rd party software. Everyone is allready connected to the chat system and software is built into the game itself.
• It's the 21'st century for crying out loud Typing is soo 80's

My stand on it is that at least sector wide chat (or squad/faction only in sector) would be a really nice addition as we would be able to talk to people while fluxxing or PvPing without having to make sure everyone has the same software, connected to the correct server, configured correctly, its all just built in and works.

Counterstike's voice comms are very nice, and very useful. Normally the team with more people talking win the rounds because you can call out enemy locations etc before you die.

[ELPIRATA]

Well, I liked Aces High aproach a lot, being able to listen to folks talking in the same vicinity as you, that was awesome. What I dont like is that it can be exploited somehow making the awesome experience of being in Jumpgate Evolution not so awesome.

Is like being on CS and having a teammate that throws flash grenades when you're moving our or (worse) about to engage the enemy. Or like that moron that would switch to your team and follow you around with the knife and poking into you (friendly fire off) all the time.

It can be annoying, really annoying.

But, if you can 'mute' them, it could be good enough for me.

ELP

[project3wc]

i love the that Ace High approach too, to limit spam i'd say make so only like 2 people can talk at the same time or something. just a thought.

true that this is the 21st century and typing, specially in a game where theres no time to type, is just old school.

[GrimGriz]

So, you guys are not a fan of the 'you have to hail someone not already on squad comms' methodology?

[rotate1x]

u better off be with the old fashion way of communicating with people via 3rd party voice chat programs.

[Bingofuel]

I am all for integrated chat. It works well in AD&D online. In AD&D it was group only chat.

I would be all for A hail system. It would be no different than sending a personal tell. The person can respond via voice chat or text or not at all. If the responder chooses text the whole conversation has to be in text.

Why would anyone want to type when they can talk? Some people dont have sound on there PC, too cheep to get a head set (speekers and mike). Simply don't like talking.

Personaly if I can talk I won't type. I'm just funny that way.

[Istanbul]

I love typing! Especially while in the middle of killing swarms.

[rotate1x]

integrated voice chat means it's unfilterable compared to text chat, imagine a newbie either hearing rap gangsta music, or someone screamin "f-you!" and other nasty swearing words in the public space chat sector.

[netburnr]

Thats what the mute option is for. Every voice chat program allows you to mute people.

[rotate1x]

mabie voice chat should be limited to either special groups or squads, or wings inside squads if people want it so bad.