Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution?

Injustice

One of the most time honored (and annoying) traditions of Jumpgate was to snipe kills from other pilots in PvP. With that in mind, the question on the table is will PvP kills (or any kills, for that matter) in Jumpgate Evolution be based off of "killing blows" or total damage done? I realize some MMO's utilize the "group kill" or "proximity kill" system, but I really don't think that's an option for us, so I left them out.

vorlon31

Karash

You could have an 'assists' column if you do damage to the target, but not the highest damage. This will be 2008, I am sure Jumpgate Evolution can track that in the middle of a battle (unlike 1999)

Tim

Wait.. I could easily be in both categories.. I want to kill steal _and_ I don't want my kills going to somebody else...

ELPIRATA

I voted for "I dont want my kills to somebody else" but because Im not a kill stealer. There are moments in which Im sure many won't mind about a teammate kill stealing but I also realize that after you've worked your target... its sad to see other come for the kill after you've done the harder part of the job.

Id think that % majority would be nice but perhaps confusing in the heat of battle. Proximity is a definite nono.

ELP

vorlon31

I didn't even realise this was even an issue to be truthful. Surely if pilot x keeps appearing beside you taking the 'winning' shot you would just say back off scroaty to them before simply making them the target?

Algore

It shouldn't matter who gets the kill provided you or your wingmen don't die.
The better pilots and better aimers will eventually get more kills.

Regards
Al

SingleShot

I don't think KSing is a huge issue.

Maybe because I do it all the time.

If it's possible to come up with a nifty way of tracking damage done in some fashion I guess it would be good. But I don't think it's that important. The better pilots are going to be rewarded, on average, more than the not good pilots.

netburnr

I'm all for an "assist" stat, but I don't think KSing is a big deal. It takes a lot of skill to actually finish someone off, and I think thats how it should be.

As long as the person dies, im happy.

dahalb

I voted yes because sometimes its just funny

Other times if you're killed then a team mate has to finish them off they deserve the kill. Total damage done would be a nifty feature but what happens when you die before your target does?

netburnr

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahalb

but what happens when you die before your target does?

Then you get an assist and a death

Jonboy

One of my favourite Jumpgate memories was fighting with Pride of Soria against Russian and The Gang. Most of the fights were even numbered and in good spirits. However, in one fight, it was around 4v4 and of course, each member of PoS were trying to kill as many Gang as possible so we could show off to TexMurphy, who was a good kill-stealer himself. However, Russian, using an ammo nix while drunk, managed to get the kill-shot on every single one of his wing-mates after we had worn them down. We didn't know whether to laugh or cry on voice-comms, as although what Russian had done was hilarious, he'd stolen our kills!!!!!

Curse you, Russian! Big love to the Gang, wherever you are now

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View Poll Results: To steal or not to steal?
Yes, I want to be a kill stealer. Mortar Soon FTW!	9	45.00%
No, I don't want my kills to go to someone else.	5	25.00%
What is this PvP of which you speak? Make LOVE, not WAR!	6	30.00%
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	Injustice Member Pilot Name: Injustice Faction: Pirate Joystick: Some POS Logitech because my FF2 broke Join Date: May 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 629 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? One of the most time honored (and annoying) traditions of Jumpgate was to snipe kills from other pilots in PvP. With that in mind, the question on the table is will PvP kills (or any kills, for that matter) in Jumpgate Evolution be based off of "killing blows" or total damage done? I realize some MMO's utilize the "group kill" or "proximity kill" system, but I really don't think that's an option for us, so I left them out.
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	vorlon31 Member Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek EVO Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 832 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution?


	Karash Member Pilot Name: Karash Faction: Octavius Joystick: Saitek x52 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eve Online Posts: 396 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? You could have an 'assists' column if you do damage to the target, but not the highest damage. This will be 2008, I am sure Jumpgate Evolution can track that in the middle of a battle (unlike 1999)


	Tim Head Goober Joystick: Some 3-axis thing. It's black. Join Date: May 2004 Location: recovering from Naked Volleyball Posts: 792 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? Wait.. I could easily be in both categories.. I want to kill steal _and_ I don't want my kills going to somebody else...
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	ELPIRATA Moderator Pilot Name: ELPIRATA Faction: non-aligned Joystick: Saitek X45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 1,494 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? I voted for "I dont want my kills to somebody else" but because Im not a kill stealer. There are moments in which Im sure many won't mind about a teammate kill stealing but I also realize that after you've worked your target... its sad to see other come for the kill after you've done the harder part of the job. Id think that % majority would be nice but perhaps confusing in the heat of battle. Proximity is a definite nono. ELP


	Algore Member Pilot Name: Algore Joystick: MS Force Feedback 2 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Belfast. Northern Ireland Posts: 562 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? It shouldn't matter who gets the kill provided you or your wingmen don't die. The better pilots and better aimers will eventually get more kills. Regards Al


	SingleShot Member Pilot Name: SingleShot Joystick: Spare FF2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 471 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? I don't think KSing is a huge issue. Maybe because I do it all the time. If it's possible to come up with a nifty way of tracking damage done in some fashion I guess it would be good. But I don't think it's that important. The better pilots are going to be rewarded, on average, more than the not good pilots.
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	netburnr I love everyone Pilot Name: netburnrol Faction: Pirate Joystick: X52 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 2,228 Nominated 2 Times in 2 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 1	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? I'm all for an "assist" stat, but I don't think KSing is a big deal. It takes a lot of skill to actually finish someone off, and I think thats how it should be. As long as the person dies, im happy.


	dahalb Member Pilot Name: dahalb Faction: Solrain Joystick: None Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oz Posts: 415 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? I voted yes because sometimes its just funny Other times if you're killed then a team mate has to finish them off they deserve the kill. Total damage done would be a nifty feature but what happens when you die before your target does?
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	Jonboy Member Pilot Name: Jonboy Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 316 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Kill Stealing in Jumpgate Evolution? One of my favourite Jumpgate memories was fighting with Pride of Soria against Russian and The Gang. Most of the fights were even numbered and in good spirits. However, in one fight, it was around 4v4 and of course, each member of PoS were trying to kill as many Gang as possible so we could show off to TexMurphy, who was a good kill-stealer himself. However, Russian, using an ammo nix while drunk, managed to get the kill-shot on every single one of his wing-mates after we had worn them down. We didn't know whether to laugh or cry on voice-comms, as although what Russian had done was hilarious, he'd stolen our kills!!!!! Curse you, Russian! Big love to the Gang, wherever you are now .