[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Jump

Which is what I have been saying all along!

LOL OK as long as we agree Ill let you off.

[Tstrike3]

I am for chaos in space..... Other games dont have safe zones... and to put in safe zones into Jumpgate will violate and rip the very essence of our staple: Free form space...

However, I am for a compromise. Hell flood the station sectors with killer AI.. There is your safe zone..... I can still kill, but I am gonna die too (with penalty I might add)...

[Jump]

Originally Posted by dailatron

Erm sorry but what do you mean by "Which means there won't be any". Thats what I took you to mean. If there will only be consenual PvP there wont be any.

That might not be what you ment, but thats how it reads which is why I was confused.

The fact that there won't be non-consensual PVP means there won't be any real PVP'ers. People that want to be left alone are not going to go fight. They want to be left alone, that's the whole point of why they want to be left alone. PVP will be a catch phrase with no meaning on such a server.

Just as on the PVP server, there will be no real PVE. Why would they hang around when they keep getting shot for no reason? Why would anyone need to make deals to not shoot PVE'ers if there is no repercussion for doing so?.

What made Jumpgate fun it it's prime was that it was able to mix oil and water. And it was a wonderful and fun thing. Now, they want to put the oil in one lamp and the water in another. So it will just site there doing nothing.

One will be a shooter, and the other will be the sims.

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Jump

The fact that there won't be non-consensual PVP means there won't be any real PVP'ers. People that want to be left alone are not going to go fight. They want to be left alone

I disagree whole heartedly with that Im afraid. Are you saying Algore (for instance) isnt a real PvPer just because he only gets involved in consensual PvP ?.

All the squads bar one that we fought on the US server were on a consensual (HG/MT) basis. That to me is the fun of PvP. But what do I know Im just a stupid all rounder that used to play and enjoy all aspects of the game (apart from mining that is, oh and arti hunting).

[Jump]

Who said anything about Algore?

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by dailatron

I disagree whole heartedly with that Im afraid. Are you saying Algore (for instance) isnt a real PvPer just because he only gets involved in consensual PvP ?.

I think he's saying Algore will be on the PvP server, and none of the real pvpers will end up on the PvE server.

What is relatively interesting is that it seems to me that the civ-ripping asshats would be more likely to play on the PvE server and make unreg hell than deal with real PvPers. They'll probably go where their victims are.

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by GrimGriz

I think he's saying Algore will be on the PvP server, and none of the real pvpers will end up on the PvE server.

What is relatively interesting is that it seems to me that the civ-ripping asshats would be more likely to play on the PvE server and make unreg hell than deal with real PvPers. They'll probably go where their victims are.

Well I disagree that no "real PvPers" will be on the PvE server just because of safe zones. There will be PvP on the safe zone server and those PvPing will be real.

Whats a real PvPer ?.

[Ambrosius]

Those primarily interested in PvP will go where the best fights are. If I were a betting man, though, I suspect most would end up on the "jumpgate" (no-safe) shard.

But as I said before, imagining a game with enough people to populate two shards seems like wild fantasy to me.

[Tstrike3]

To be honest, I was hoping for an RP change because I promised a old friend of mine that I would join him... I will likely go to a non-PVP shard because the folks (read: victims) reside there.... so Ambro makes a valid case in point.

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Ambrosius

Those primarily interested in PvP will go where the best fights are. If I were a betting man, though, I suspect most would end up on the "jumpgate" (no-safe) shard.

I just dont understand. We already have a great potental PvP server but no one plays.

Originally Posted by Ambrosius

But as I said before, imagining a game with enough people to populate two shards seems like wild fantasy to me.

Wouldnt it be fantastic. When I first started on the EU server there was 250-300+ people playing every night and at the time that was amazing. But sadly it was downhill from there.

Im so looking forward to it, I just hope the safe zones/ consensual PvP is done correctly.

[dailatron]

Originally Posted by Tstrike3

I will likely go to a non-PVP shard

There wont be a non-PvP server from what I understand.

Although I suppose in the future they might totally take away any kind of player versus player combat although I very much doubt that. I just hope they make a different server rather than change the safe zone server to that if that becomes the case.

PS will your new RP mean you actually log on ?.

[Tstrike3]

Originally Posted by dailatron

There wont be a non-PvP server from what I understand.

Although I suppose in the future they might totally take away any kind of player versus player combat although I very much doubt that. I just hope they make a different server rather than change the safe zone server to that if that becomes the case.

PS will your new RP mean you actually log on ?.

Yeah... I know I havent logged on in forever... Jumpgate Classic is so boring... Most of Sol Navy is just waiting.... So me and biteme still hanging out waiting to give the Navy the word....

Scorch hasnt visited us in ages... and we have a huge playerbase....