Remove The Registry Tag System

Tritian · 07:18 AM

The topic of this Thread is the Registry Tag System, not who is uglier than whom.

daslog

Did any of you guys listen to the 2 hour interview? There were a couple questions where ND indicated what they plan for PvE/PvP. The basic concepts:

Players who don't ever want to engage in PvP will be protected.
There will be places in the game where no one is protected.
There will be incentives to go to the places of no protection.

Sort of makes this whole thread moot

Lordopic · 05:09 PM

The topic of this Thread is the Registry Tag System, not who is uglier than whom.

I never said this hey ive been edited by higher powers.

Tritian

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Originally Posted by Lordopic

Mine where facetious, sarcastic at best, yours lowered the tone some what.

Just sometimes calling some one a Knob shows no respect

Ahh, so it was 'knob' that threw you off. I was using it more for it's 'Wacky British Slang' comical value. I know what it means, but I didn't think it was that offensive.

dailatron

Lets face it we need some sort of "tag" just so we can assume some sort of consensual PvP. Hell even with the tag you can still get called lamer and/or have them splash with the good bye line of "leave me alone. Im only doing <some sort of> missions you lamer".

If anyone wants nothing to do with a tag system, stay in unreg. Or is this not about PvP but civ ripping ?.

dailatron

I read the whole thread again just to see if it was about the tag system or just about civ ripping. Ill let you guess the outcome. Anyway I found this again and forgot to reply last time.

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Originally Posted by Eraser55

I don't see how podding screwed up EU. You could only pod in Unreg. And no one is forced to travel to Unreg.

Sadly the damage was done long before that rule came into effect and the "damage" was the reason it was brought in in the first place.

dailatron

@WB

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Originally Posted by Tritian

That's assuming you havent burned all your bridges by constantly calling the PvP community 'griefers'.

Dont worry we know you're not talking about real PvPers

Tritian

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Originally Posted by dailatron

If anyone wants nothing to do with a tag system, stay in unreg. Or is this not about PvP but civ ripping ?.

The problem with that is, noone goes to unreg since there is no reason to go to unreg. So a pirate who is limited to just PoD'ing people in unreg is not going to be successful.

We need reasons for the average joe hauler to go to unreg. Hence my contraband thread!

dailatron

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Originally Posted by Tritian

The problem with that is, noone goes to unreg since there is no reason to go to unreg. So a pirate who is limited to just PoD'ing people in unreg is not going to be successful.

We need reasons for the average joe hauler to go to unreg. Hence my contraband thread!

I totaly agree, but lets not make victims of those that dont or cant PvP just because of a weakness in the game.

The economy and things connected to it are the downfall of Jumpgate in my eyes, not people not wanting to get ripped.

Istanbul

Ok... my take on the bounties is that they should be based on the deeds (or the pr the deeds grant you) not how snazzy of a ship you fly.

Jonboy

It is sad that this thread is no longer anything to do with the removal of the registry system. I honestly would like to try the game without.

IMO, removal of the tag system would create a more RP rich game, with more dependence on player interaction. Sorting out intersquad relations and escorts and sorting out who was doing what in a fleet/convoy was lots of fun. I did have to do this even when there was the tag system in place. But I was still mostly safe when I went HG-tagged for a month (Liet didn't even rip me when I was mining in a tow).

You can't rely on tags or escorts or a bounty system to keep you safe. There is a level of risk that you take by launching. I still think that we'd be better off with a PvE server (with a civ-chip, you could still chose to PvP) and with a PvP server (with no civ tag). I'm glad that dailatron and lordo and WB still would rather SOME level of danger than a Civ-chip. I just don't understand what that level is.

dailatron

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Originally Posted by Istanbul

Ok... my take on the bounties is that they should be based on the deeds (or the pr the deeds grant you) not how snazzy of a ship you fly.

Think of it like salvage, if you blow the ship up you get the spoils. I think its done that way to discourage anyone ripping constantly.

If you dont like the bounty get a LF and work the PR off. Its pretty simple really.

Only civrip in unreg and there is no bounty.

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	daslog Member Pilot Name: daslog Joystick: sidewinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: new hampshire uber alles Posts: 354 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Remove The Registry Tag System Did any of you guys listen to the 2 hour interview? There were a couple questions where ND indicated what they plan for PvE/PvP. The basic concepts: Players who don't ever want to engage in PvP will be protected. There will be places in the game where no one is protected. There will be incentives to go to the places of no protection. Sort of makes this whole thread moot


	Lordopic Member Faction: non-aligned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: over the hills and far away Posts: 887 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Remove The Registry Tag System The topic of this Thread is the Registry Tag System, not who is uglier than whom. I never said this hey ive been edited by higher powers.
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	dailatron Member Pilot Name: dailatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 401 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Remove The Registry Tag System Lets face it we need some sort of "tag" just so we can assume some sort of consensual PvP. Hell even with the tag you can still get called lamer and/or have them splash with the good bye line of "leave me alone. Im only doing <some sort of> missions you lamer". If anyone wants nothing to do with a tag system, stay in unreg. Or is this not about PvP but civ ripping ?.


	Istanbul Member Pilot Name: Istanbul Joystick: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: WI Posts: 815 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Remove The Registry Tag System Ok... my take on the bounties is that they should be based on the deeds (or the pr the deeds grant you) not how snazzy of a ship you fly.
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	Jonboy Member Pilot Name: Jonboy Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 316 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0	Re: Remove The Registry Tag System It is sad that this thread is no longer anything to do with the removal of the registry system. I honestly would like to try the game without. IMO, removal of the tag system would create a more RP rich game, with more dependence on player interaction. Sorting out intersquad relations and escorts and sorting out who was doing what in a fleet/convoy was lots of fun. I did have to do this even when there was the tag system in place. But I was still mostly safe when I went HG-tagged for a month (Liet didn't even rip me when I was mining in a tow). You can't rely on tags or escorts or a bounty system to keep you safe. There is a level of risk that you take by launching. I still think that we'd be better off with a PvE server (with a civ-chip, you could still chose to PvP) and with a PvP server (with no civ tag). I'm glad that dailatron and lordo and WB still would rather SOME level of danger than a Civ-chip. I just don't understand what that level is.