[GrimGriz]

If a civ gets ripped by a combat pilot (not splashing or flux or anything else) whatever was in his cargo hold is waiting for him in the cargo hold of his new ship....

[SlimPickns]

Nice idea, lol but how does the game know the civ rip is not a KOS between squads. And if the civ is hauling from oct space to quant space, it would be a short cut home. I have a real problem with cargo not going poof when the ship is blown up. But hey what do i know..

[Smegit]

What if the combat pilot belongs to a squad at war with another squad and the civ is knowingly stocking said former squad? He just gets blown up, returns to station and launches again. Eventually the combat pilot gets bored and logs.

I see where your coming from but I would have to vote no. Civ-ripping in some form must be allowed.

Just my two peneth.

Smeg

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by SlimPickns

Nice idea, lol but how does the game know the civ rip is not a KOS between squads. And if the civ is hauling from oct space to quant space, it would be a short cut home. I have a real problem with cargo not going poof when the ship is blown up. But hey what do i know..

I don't see why it would matter if it was a KOS or not.

The short cut thing might be a problem. You could make them go back to their last dock instead.

I kinda have the same problem, but it's the first thing that occurred to me that actually would make dying in a miner or hauler as meaningless as dying in a fighter.

Originally Posted by Smegit

What if the combat pilot belongs to a squad at war with another squad and the civ is knowingly stocking said former squad? He just gets blown up, returns to station and launches again.

It could still hurt the civs insurance rating, and if we go with the return to last dock thing the combat pilot would still be preventing the equipment from being delivered.

Additionally, the combat pilot could also burgle the equipment rather than civving the civ...and if the rip happened in unreg the equipment could be destroyed as usual.

[Dynatekk]

Originally Posted by GrimGriz

If a civ gets ripped by a combat pilot (not splashing or flux or anything else) whatever was in his cargo hold is waiting for him in the cargo hold of his new ship....

i do not want to render this as unnecessary, the insurance will do that.

Ship destroyed = cargo destroyed

just be lucky if Jumpgate doesnt spells Game Over.

[GrimGriz]

It's kind of like a safe zone, except you still get to make them splode.

[vorlon31]

*opens the book of vorlon31*
Thou shalt not kill a civilian
*closes book*

Books passage to pve server to avoid asshats in all their guises.

[GrimGriz]

Originally Posted by vorlon31

Books passage to pve server to avoid asshats in all their guises.

You're in for a rude awakening

[vorlon31]

Seriously? You think so?

All station strippers in the last 2.5 years of the wws have been pvp'rs. The only people they seriously effected were pvp'rs. (Splashed Oct bcu anyone?) And with a 24/7 AI, mining, building and hauling the effects of stripping will matter even less so and anyway, I expect the markets of Jumpgate Evolution to be far more robust than the one in Jumpgate Classic is.

All other asshattery has involved people abusing tags in reg, one way or another and civing (normally for very weak reasoning's). Something I trust will be resolved on a pve server with consensual only combat in reg space - wrought though game mechanics like beacon flipping, mt vs mt, factional MT mercs, bounties for acts on civilian AI's, illicit cargo carrying and other such mission based player choices.

And while I am sure there will also be some new way people find to annoy each other, they will at least have to be imaginative and not just a rehash of the same old asshatteries of the past.

PVP is often scarce in Jumpgate Classic because there is no new blood entering the field, or existing people experimenting with it on a regular basis. Why? Because new blood cannot easily ease themselves into it without someone somewhere suddenly denouncing them as evil and civing them, their sister and friends for 'RP' purposes even after they have switched tags back to civ or left unreg.

On a pve server theoretically people can experiment with pvp through the game mechanics and mission choices without the weight of asshattiness swinging over their heads.

That is what I think anyway and time will tell If I am bonkers in the nut or sane.

[GrimGriz]

I think so, if you think invulnerability is going to rid you of all your problems... you're in for a surprise.

[Eraser55]

your bonkers in the nut.

Everything is scarce in Jumpgate Classic. There arent any new people entering at all. And why is the population declining everytime something doesnt work on PVP. Because thats the heart of the game. You mess with PVP you kill the game.

When Eu server shut, people left, because US had not enough equip for long, to long., Lag/ping issues, and the last brick was the MT patch witch killed multifactional pvp squads..

BTW GG, I dont see the point of magicly having your cargo after you are destroyed.

[Wild_Bill]

Me either.

[GrimGriz]

Instead of invulnerability in safe zones