So, The Dark Fork spawns Mantas now. That means that now, there are zero routes between Solrain and Quantar free of c6/c7 spawns. The Dark Fork, Main Gate, Hyperion Gate, Bronci Rift, Blasted Corner - Stith/Connexion. Further, that change just royally screwed over Octavian n00bs. Oct space is now, by a significant margin, the most dangerous for new pilots. They have not only one, but two inter-station manta spawns - and TDF's placement essentially cuts off all (safe) traffic between Depot, Core, and GP. You got GP-OP, or nothing - assuming you can make it there in either direction before your spawn immunity wears off. Not only that, but Oct space is now the only one where there is a *single* intrafaction route in-faction free of mantas for haulers and miners. Are they *trying* to make sure nobody plays anymore? The vast majority of the remaining players are miners, artyhunters and haulers, for crying out loud. Coupled with the manufactured, and non-player initiated Antiflux "shortage" (read: The GMs blew it up, because reasons), you now have the GMs making *any* travel with *anything* heavy death - unless you have an Antiflux - and then taking away the Antifluxes. Is that supposed to be fun? What in the world? What next, take away all the best in slot engines, just to make it "more dangerous", ergo, "more fun"? Oy. Look, I like killing flux - but you aren't going to force anyone, even fluxhunters, to run escorts for people that shouldn't need them as an "IC" solution when you made the removal of Antiflux utterly OOC - not even remotely connected to pilot wants or needs, and ensured that we can't affect that hamfisted imposition, in any case. I'm serious here - do you *want* nobody to play anymore? That's exactly what is going to happen, if you keep pushing this.